For Sale 70 Monaco 500 FK5

[71Polara383]

OP. Mark this car sold so we can all move on with our lives. Thanks.

 

[fc7_plumcrazy]

Carsten, YOU of all people know the difference. The time frames specified are best suited for people like you. The best deals can be had at these times as the market is more limited.
You know your financial situation and are in a much better position to buy cars on a whim at any time of year. Rather than the dead of winter and Christmas bills looming .

Dave, I thought about Matt and his words.

There is a big difference between germany and the US if this is the case IMHO.
Car parts sales might be slow before x-mas in germany, too because people have other things in mind. But those being into classic cars buy/sell all the time if there is a chance to get something interesting.

How do I know? Just current: I have decided to reduce my collection. The result is that we have sold four old Mopars within the last 5 weeks with a couple of more cars to sell. All of them went to Mopar people, none of them needed to be advertised.

Other friends sold some expensive Mopars, too and just this week another close friend bought a 71 GTX in Carlisle,PA on ebay.

Decisions to buy an "expensive" classic car are usually made in general overhere and are not influenced by the time of the year or if you have a few grant of expenses coming up for various reasons. The "budget" for the classic cars purchase has usually nothing to do with it.

This is in no way meant to be arrogant but people overhere don't finance a classic car nor do they spent their last asset to buy it.

Hence my request to Matt.

Carsten

 

[ayilar]

All I'll say, before the thread is closed, is this.

I would never have bought my Polara if it had not been for this board. Zero chance. It's not just the depth of expertise and members' generosity with their time / willingness to help guide my purchase & restoration decisions, it is also the opportunity to continuously learn more about what I was buying into and the chance to talk with like-minded car nuts (and meet them in a number of cases).

Within this board, the core of regular FCBO'ers makes up a rather small community (think about who regularly posts). The number of folks who really know what they're talking about is even smaller. Steve is one of them, regardless of whether one agrees with his perspective or some of his arguments in this thread (in the same vein, most of the regular posters know way, WAY more than I do).

I submit that all of us should therefore rue the day when anyone from that small group of knowledgeable and helpful people feels pushed off.

Regardless of whose feelings have been hurt (and it seems to me that they have been on both sides), guys, please undo the damage. Send one another PMs, if PDAs are not an option. And don't think you'd do it because I am asking (who am I, after all) or because the spirit of Christmas is here -- you'd do it for the sake of the cars.

 

[Cee Bodies]

All I'll say, before the thread is closed, is this.

I would never have bought my Polara if it had not been for this board. Zero chance. It's not just the depth of expertise and members' generosity with their time / willingness to help guide my purchase & restoration decisions, it is also the opportunity to continuously learn more about what I was buying into and the chance to talk with like-minded car nuts (and meet them in a number of cases).

Within this board, the core of regular FCBO'ers makes up a rather small community (think about who regularly posts). The number of folks who really know what they're talking about is even smaller. Steve is one of them, regardless of whether one agrees with his perspective or some of his arguments in this thread (in the same vein, most of the regular posters know way, WAY more than I do).

I submit that all of us should therefore rue the day when anyone from that small group of knowledgeable and helpful people feels pushed off.

Regardless of whose feelings have been hurt (and it seems to me that they have been on both sides), guys, please undo the damage. Send one another PMs, if PDAs are not an option. And don't think you'd do it because I am asking (who am I, after all) or because the spirit of Christmas is here -- you'd do it for the sake of the cars.

Just the tone of this response is divisive. Members have varying amounts of expertise. Does that make them a less valuable member? What I have learned from this site the past few years has been awesome. Do I know how to put a car together from ground up, no. But there could be areas that I may be more knowledgeable than other members. When you start breaking down a board based on expertise or number of posts, you automatically turn members off.

 

[fc7_plumcrazy]

That ignores his reality. He is a forward look guy, and not a fuselage guy. And he does what his customers pay him to do, not what he would necessarily like to do.

Would you go out of your way to save a 1957 Dodge Coronet that you had bought when in his position, and take an even heavier loss by putting it all back together, or would you buy the Polara of your dreams when it made its unexpected appearance at the precisely wrong time and cut your losses otherwise? I think we all know the answer car guy.

I am not so full of myself that I can't see another person's perspective. Its too limiting. The stuff we all here like a lot is viewed by the general population as "old mens' cars" and think we are daffy - and couldn't care less if they were all crushed - but it doesn't matter to me. Its my life and I can see why they think I am nuts too. I just don't care what they think. These are just old cars in reality, not something that really matters, and you won't be able to take them with you when you are gone.

I went though the tread again.
This post from Steve nails it pretty good IMHO.
The guy wasn't a fusey guy but is a forwardlook guy.
It wasn't his original plan to kill the Monaco. It just happened due to his mistakes and wrong decisions and having the pressure to act fast.

And I have to agree a lot of my other Mopar friends think I am silly to mess around with a lot of Full size. in the last years they became way more popular but in the 90s all my Mopar friends saw Fuselage C-bodies just as donor cars and nothing else. No matter if in germany or the US. But like Steve and many others we continued to play with them because they gave fun and happiness. And I could care less what my B&E-friends said about them.

But despite looking at the Monaco as we as enthusiasts do it helps to have the cognitive ability to see it through the eyes/thoughts of the guy who parted it. It doesn't justify it but explains what he did. It doesn't mean we have to like his thoughts or agree to them.

But we sould consider to "let loose".
Different opinons and thoughts should be able to be expressed without being harsh to each other. A respectful exchange of different opinions is what differs us from all the hate and polemic which is so common today.

Carsten

 

['69FuryIIIConvertible]

Space, time and money issue eh?.......pretty funny....he's looking to buy another non forward look car.....

But what do I know, I haven't boasted my education credentials and beat my chest like a baboon...

Nick

PS it doesn't take being a rocket scientist to determine the character of a person. My grandfather didn't make it past grade 6 and was a better man then most will ever hope to be...

 

[polara71]

Space, time and money issue eh?.......pretty funny....he's looking to buy another non forward look car.....

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But what do I know, I haven't boasted my education credentials and beat my chest like a baboon...

Nick

PS it doesn't take being a rocket scientist to determine the character of a person. My grandfather didn't make it past grade 6 and was a better man then most will ever hope to be...

Space, time and money issue eh?.......pretty funny....he's looking to buy another non forward look car.....

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But what do I know, I haven't boasted my education credentials and beat my chest like a baboon...

Nick

PS it doesn't take being a rocket scientist to determine the character of a person. My grandfather didn't make it past grade 6 and was a better man then most will ever hope to be...

Nick, even at your young age you have the ability to be a great judge of character . Thank you for your insight and added opinion. You've proved to add valuable insight within a few posts which before was only speculation and knew it when you saw it.

 

['69FuryIIIConvertible]

Even Stevie Wonder could see this one Dave.

 

[commando1]

Even Stevie Wonder could see this one Dave.

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Well, that one post was what it took for me to figure out things.
Thanks, son.

 

[fury fan]

All I'll say, before the thread is closed, is this.

Just the tone of this response is divisive.

And these 2 quotes are prime examples of how complex human interaction can be when there's a narrow slice of gray area in a topic.
I agreed with what Ayilar said, and then also had to agree with Cee Bodies also.

 

[polara71]

Well, that one post was what it took for me to figure out things.
Thanks, son.

YOU already had it figured out but have been sitting on the sidelines. That one post may have been the final nail.

 

[sauterd]

fyi recent thread on fb

Doug Baird
22 hrs
I had to share. My Christmas present!

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Mark Polisky Burnt Orange Rim Blow
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Doug Baird Yes. Matches my interior. Only thing I need to do is change the DODGE to PLYMOUTH. An amazing find!!!
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Gary Brunner The same steering wheel my Sport Fury GT had in it back in the day
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Wyatt Baxa I'm so glad I didnt buy it. I would've dyed it black. I like this way better.
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Lewis Wiemert Could that wheel be used on a tilt/telescopic column?
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Dave Wheeler Probably, at the least it is a tilt wheel.
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Dale Sauter curious, did this by chance come from the San Diego area?
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Doug Baird Dale Sauter Yes. From a Dodge Monaco. The seller also had a tilt steering column and center console shift setup, which I was also wanted, but I the reality of what it would actually take to switch from a column to floor shift set in. I'm content with keeping the column shift, for now. i really would have liked the entire care, for parts, but I don't have the room.
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[polara71]

And not advertised except on Facebook... prices were outrageous

 

[sauterd]

kind of reminds me of my 300 tnt deal--oh well.....

 

[71Polara383]

Well I did a thing...

 

[Carmine]

Well I did a thing...

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You're re-powering a C-body with an old Saturn L-series? I don't know if that's going to make you popular, but it's different...

 

[71Polara383]

You're re-powering a C-body with an old Saturn L-series? I don't know if that's going to make you popular, but it's different...

Gotta use something for a donor...

 

[polara71]

nice to see a solid car being saved .....Well done!

 

[sauterd]

Gotta use something for a donor...

great ! just curious, did you the original drive train as well?

 

[71Polara383]

great ! just curious, did you the original drive train as well?

No...not sure what to expect when it shows up.