ECI c - body brake kit

[68plymouth383]

Good to see you back on Man!!

 

[superfragl]

The brackets can go either way - front or back since the spindle holes are symmetric. In my case I have found that I get better caliper/spindle clearance if they go to the front. Also, the Camaro rotors are one piece design and are 2" wider/thicker - they will not fit. More than likely the rotors are 95 Mustang. I used 97 Nissan Maxima rotors because I think it is a better fit in my case - it is slightly thicker and the caliper lines up with the bracket perfectly.
However I learned that my setup will clear the stock steel wheel with 5/16 spacer only. Mustang rotor diameter .15" smaller and and overall thickness is .13" less. I did some 3D modeling and it will not clear the stock wheel too. So I am a bit confused... Saylor, what wheels do you have?
The only thing that ECI could have done is to move the hub flange out (custom hubs) so they could use deeper rotor and clear the stock wheel. But that means the wheel will be sticking out a bit more that factory, let`s say 0.5".
Anyway, before laser cutting the brackets I decided to make a test bracket out of plywood and put everything together.

I will mock up the suspension parts tomorrow to see how everything fits.
The local metal fab. shop quoted me $75 for two brackets. So far I have spent around $100. Should be under $200 when everything done.

 

[superfragl]

A few pictures with the front suspension parts in place.

Everything fits nicely and my 14" Centerline rims can go in without spacers. Brackets are going to be ready in two days.

 

[commando1]

That looks sweet.

 

[68blackbird]

Just ordered kit from ECI. Went on a 100 mile poker run this weekend, cruising along about 60, with 8 cars in front of me, the lead car decided to make a quick left turn, had to hit the brakes fairly hard and it was a a little bit of a handful. Great info here, very glad to read all this before, should make installation much easier, many thanks!!

 

[Mr onetwo]

The brackets can go either way - front or back since the spindle holes are symmetric. In my case I have found that I get better caliper/spindle clearance if they go to the front. Also, the Camaro rotors are one piece design and are 2" wider/thicker - they will not fit. More than likely the rotors are 95 Mustang. I used 97 Nissan Maxima rotors because I think it is a better fit in my case - it is slightly thicker and the caliper lines up with the bracket perfectly.
However I learned that my setup will clear the stock steel wheel with 5/16 spacer only. Mustang rotor diameter .15" smaller and and overall thickness is .13" less. I did some 3D modeling and it will not clear the stock wheel too. So I am a bit confused... Saylor, what wheels do you have?
The only thing that ECI could have done is to move the hub flange out (custom hubs) so they could use deeper rotor and clear the stock wheel. But that means the wheel will be sticking out a bit more that factory, let`s say 0.5".
Anyway, before laser cutting the brackets I decided to make a test bracket out of plywood and put everything together.
View attachment 46447View attachment 46448
I will mock up the suspension parts tomorrow to see how everything fits.
The local metal fab. shop quoted me $75 for two brackets. So far I have spent around $100. Should be under $200 when everything done.

Did you get the plates yet? Very interested in this low buck approach.

 

[superfragl]

Got the plates cut a few days ago. Did not have a chance to put everything on yet - waay to cold in the garage now. It is supposed to be -10 tonight.

I will update as soon as I make more progress with this.

 

[Mr onetwo]

If this all works out, will you make the cad files available for a fee or maybe get some extra plates cut for those willing to pay?

 

[superfragl]

Sure thing, I will help in any way I can. Let me put everything together to make sure there is no issues first.

 

[BillGrissom]

superfragl,
Great work. I have the same 14" centerline wheels on my 65 Newport, so "should work". I am interested in buying the brackets if you make a run of them. You should probably start a new post on this.

I have never done such, but sounds fairly easy today w/ shops doing water-jet cutting to CAD drawings. A guy on a M-B site I frequent designed & sells brackets to mount a Sanden AC compressor on our old diesels. He found a shop nearby. They charge material plus price per linear length of cut. If you can arrange parts to best use the plate and minimize cuts it saves a lot. He then gets the plates cadmium plated (yellow) so looks very professional and don't need paint. I bought a set.

My 11" drum brakes work fine, but I would still like brackets for the future, since such opportunities can be fleeting.

 

[saylor]

hey ECI does send out hubs in their kit. i think they are 3/8 wider out than stock or something...that sounds like it may be right.

the ECI kit uses 79-82 camaro rotors, redrilled to our bolt pattern.

im glad to see this work going on all of you that are doing it.

and i still say this is the single best upgrade ive done on my car so far. the difference between old drums and new discs is x1000.

- saylor

 

[saylor]

o - i got cheapazz MB razor 15" wheel/tire combo from discount tire.

 

[68blackbird]

My turn, UPS just showed up....:3gears:

 

[Blackmopar]

hell yea! I see you went for the MC Like I did - how quick did they ship for you - trying to see if I might get this weekend or not

 

[68blackbird]

hell yea! I see you went for the MC Like I did - how quick did they ship for you - trying to see if I might get this weekend or not

Ordered on the 16th. Man, this was easy....if MC goes well, back on the road tomorrow...

 

[Blackmopar]

nice!

 

[superfragl]

I am really curious if their kit would clear the stock 14" wheels?
I had to weld and re-drill one of the bracket mounting holes last night (missed it by 1/8" in my blueprints) and after all was done put everything together on the bench tried to fit the stock rim with 5/16 spacer and it would not clear (need 1/2" spacer). Centerline rim fits fine.

 

[commando1]

I am really curious if their kit would clear the stock 14" wheels?
I had to weld and re-drill one of the bracket mounting holes last night (missed it by 1/8" in my blueprints) and after all was done put everything together on the bench tried to fit the stock rim with 5/16 spacer and it would not clear (need 1/2" spacer). Centerline rim fits fine.

This is exactly why I will not consider any of these "conversion kits".
I believe in keeping it Mopar.

 

[68plymouth383]

Right... but his is a homemade conversion kit... that's why he is having to modify, cut, redrill, turndown..... ect....

The scarebird kit has been proven very reliable, and made with excellent quality hardware. You supply the parts quality of your choice. The only thing not mopar in the scarebird kit is the 1 piece ford rotors. That's the kit I'll be using when I convert my fury to disc.

This is exactly why I will not consider any of these "conversion kits".
I believe in keeping it Mopar.

 

[commando1]

I wish I can find an old thread from MoparFins where it was shown that the inner and outer bearings used in the conversion do not seat/fit properly on the Ford rotors and they eventually sieze when the miles rack up. The reason you don't hear about this is because the majority of the conversions go on cars that just go to Dairy Queen once a week.

If somebody would simply repop the '73 spindle, life would be good.