Exactly What Wheels & Tires Fit C Bodies?

[fury fan]

@SPF Required
I have a set of 70 300 wheelcovers in fair cond I could sell you at a reasonable price if it helps. Would allow you to pick the best to start from?
Shipping will be salty, though?

 

[amazinblue82]

@SPF Required. two updates.

1. not counting my '67 imperials (Budd discs, no magnums just original steelies), and not counting my '66 300 that runs '73 calipers with magnums, and not counting '65's (all drums, with magnums), and not counting '67-'68 police (Budd discs, steelies), i have one '67 300 with discs/no magnums currently/no plans to use.

2. I only have Wheel Vintique Magnums, all 15x8, all 4.0 backspacing. i have no factory Magnums. i have no 15x7 Magnums.

3. the verdict. we tried the Magnums with the '67 Budds and ... viola. They HIT the Budd caliper. Eyeballing, a minimum 1/2 spacer would be needed to be sure (then Id have to be mindful of tire-rub issues with 245/60's I like). more clearance is needed between the hub face and the wheel so, as people have observed, bksp. would not appear to make any difference.

i conclude, now with my own experience, what everybody knows. you cant just throw any ol wheel, aftermarket or otherwise, over a Budd caliper. Shame on Magnums . I like that wheel and would not hesitate to go with properly fitted billet spacers in front to make it work.

It also has me thinking about how to better manage my Budd disc "fleet" -- honestly haven't given it enough thought/identified replacement part sources & strategies.

 

[SPF Required]

@SPF Required
I have a set of 70 300 wheelcovers in fair cond I could sell you at a reasonable price if it helps. Would allow you to pick the best to start from?
Shipping will be salty, though?

I appreciate the offer but the ones I have now are decent, just need some polish. I will keep you in mind if they don’t clean up well.

 

[SPF Required]

Thank you @amazinblue82 for the deep dive into your fleet. I think I am going to hold off on the magnum purchase for now. New tires and reconditioned wheel covers will have to do for the time being.

Thanks all for the help!

 

[SPF Required]

I am getting new tires today on the factory wheels. Venezia 225/70R15. These tires will also fit the future 15x7 magnums if I end up going that route.

I have always needed a spare for this car. Any decent sources out there for a plain ‘ol’ stock steel wheel for the spare? For reference, this is for a 68 300.

TIA.

 

[amazinblue82]

I am getting new tires today on the factory wheels. Venezia 225/70R15. These tires will also fit the future 15x7 magnums if I end up going that route.

I have always needed a spare for this car. Any decent sources out there for a plain ‘ol’ stock steel wheel for the spare? For reference, this is for a 68 300.

TIA.

looked up that tire. hadnt heard of it.

a great OE look, right stripe, robust size, and keeps options open for different wheel choices later.

on spare, id get a "modern" ('80's-'90's), Ford or Mopar, since that wont have too much positive offset) 15x7, 5x4.5 from a salvage yard, $20?, rattle-can flat black if needed, and roll with that (mindful of caliper fitment)?

alternatively, you could poll the board here for something local (no shipping) and correct (fits Budd caliper) if thats important for the look you wanna maintain?

regale us with pics please when youre done.

 

[fury fan]

Holy cow, Batman. An old-school tire, in 70 series, with a whitewall.

 

[amazinblue82]

Holy cow, Batman. An old-school tire, in 70 series, with a whitewall.

I assumed @SPF Required got the whitewall for an OE look. there is a non-descript blackwall out there too

https://www.prioritytire.com/by-brand/venezia-tires/classic-787

 

[SPF Required]

That’s the one! Here’s some pics of the new shoes on the car:

 

[amazinblue82]

C-Body Wheel and Tire Survey

235/45 -17 and 275/40-17, no backspacing given.

 

[amazinblue82]

C-Body Wheel and Tire Survey

1961 Newport I dig it, but like them better with their factory bright trim, including door handles. Sporting 18x8 up front, 18x9 out back (no backspacing given. no tire size indicated).

www.forcbodiesonly.com

18x8 in front, 18x9 in rear. no backspacing given.

 

[amazinblue82]

1972 Imperial

Seller reports: Wheels: 15 x 7, Tires: 255 70 15, i do get rubbing on the fender skirts when in the curves.

 

[LocuMob]

15 x 7 4" BS 245/60 front and 255/70 rear.

 

[1970FuryConv]

Great thread!
Thanks @amazinblue82

 

[1970FuryConv]

Has anyone tried late model 17" Dodge Charger Rims, a 5x115mm bolt pattern on their c-body?
Original wheels shows the bolt pattern as 5x4.5", although 4.5" is usually 114.3mm.
If so how did the rims fit? What is backspacing? Curious because these rims are selling cheap on craigslist and FB.
2006 Dodge Charger OEM Wheels & Rims at OriginalWheels.com

 

[amazinblue82]

Has anyone tried late model 17" Dodge Charger Rims, a 5x115mm bolt pattern on their c-body?
Original wheels shows the bolt pattern as 5x4.5", although 4.5" is usually 114.3mm.
If so how did the rims fit? What is backspacing? Curious because these rims are selling cheap on craigslist and FB.
2006 Dodge Charger OEM Wheels & Rims at OriginalWheels.com

there is a C here (in the forum but maybe not in this thread) where someone did what you describe.

i used to know a guy years ago that built one of these. yes, an "M", but like "C"s, it likes 5x4.5, 4 in bksp. '80's mirada/cordoba alloys on C's are all over this thread and are a painless swap if one likes that 5/10 spoke design.

the 2006 and later model 5 x 4.5 in. (114.3 mm) b.p.Charger 17's will generally fit, but offset is much more positive than anything OEM C's ever had.

to make this M work, they did a buncha mods (to get all the ride/handling benefits of the body/chassis transplant they did).

But, without all that, you still may need spacers to "offset" the wheel offset (i would guess 6 to 7+ in. bksp depending on width of that wheel -- 8 to 10 in.?) for suspension clearance on a "C", and/or to avoid that 'spindly-leg' look "modern" offset wheels tend to display when used on vintage ('60's to '90's) cars.



Good luck.

 

[fury fan]

Great stance on that CMX.
Yes, those wheels would not look that proper without some adjustments of some sort.
Is there a link to pics of what is under the skin on that car?

I put a similar chin spoiler on mine back in the mid-90s (an 80 'Doba with a Mirada nosecone), I had forgotten all about that.
IIRC it came of a 80s Cavalier Z24 like this.

 

[amazinblue82]

Is there a link to pics of what is under the skin on that car?

I think there's a bunch out there. I think.

if you search under some variant of keywords "Mirada SRT/8", i would guess a few more things on this same car will show up.

 

[1970FuryConv]

there is a C here (in the forum but maybe not in this thread) where someone did what you describe.

i used to know a guy years ago that built one of these. yes, an "M", but like "C"s, it likes 5x4.5, 4 in bksp. '80's mirada/cordoba alloys on C's are all over this thread and are a painless swap if one likes that 5/10 spoke design.

the 2006 and later model 5 x 4.5 in. (114.3 mm) b.p.Charger 17's will generally fit, but offset is much more positive than anything OEM C's ever had.

to make this M work, they did a buncha mods (to get all the ride/handling benefits of the body/chassis transplant they did).

But, without all that, you still may need spacers to "offset" the wheel offset (i would guess 6 to 7+ in. bksp depending on width of that wheel -- 8 to 10 in.?) for suspension clearance on a "C", and/or to avoid that 'spindly-leg' look "modern" offset wheels tend to display when used on vintage ('60's to '90's) cars.



Good luck.

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THANKS FOR THE HEADS UP ON SPACERS
I was actually thinking of using 18" steelies, like the one pictured below, from a 2005-2006 Charger Police Car, could be same thru 2011, not sure.
But adding spacers and changing wheel studs is extra work that I really do not want. I can just go with police rims 15x7.

 

[LocuMob]

Is there a link to pics of what is under the skin on that car?