Here's one for the books. Formal dash in a fusie?

[Polaraco]

There is no bulkhead connecter.
All the wiring comes through a grommeted hole to the left of the P.B. booster in one frikkan huge harness. The fuse box is mounted on a bracket that is mounted to the bottom of the dash right above your left knee. The reservoir was mounted on the left inner wheel well behind the headlight in 74/75 and on the radiator support behind the right headlight 76-78.

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Thanks Stan

The factory ,manual calls that big green thing, where all the plugs go, a bulk head connector. I just passed it on. So where does that big green connector block get mounted? LOL

Fuse block above the left knee. Is it behind the opening in the lower panel? There is an access hole on the left side. Behind that? What does the bracket look like? Anyone have one?

I got the grommet. (Thanks for the Pic Monaco) I've unwrapped the harness so I can wrap all the modifications and extra wires into the harness. Stan, you probably remember I had a bunch of wire bundles on the left fender. It will be all gone now.

What looks like the low resevoir switch plug is all the way on the right near the Rad support. I can seem to find the washer motor wiring or the low signal plug on the left.. I wish I had time to study that car lance had. But it still lives in Polaraco. I just wish the wiring wasn't messed with. Lance only cut two wires, but there were others

That dash is going to look sweet in there. Like it belongs

 

[Polaraco]

Hind site

I probably should have bought a formal and do the engine and trans deal in one of those. They just don't have the unique look of the 72 Polara.

Weren't they heavier than the fusies?

 

[commando1]

Hind site

I probably should have bought a formal and do the engine and trans deal in one of those. They just don't have the unique look of the 72 Polara.

Weren't they heavier than the fusies?

Lance's '77 is on eBay as we speak.....
He just got divorced again so it's going cheap. Married and divorced the same gal twice. :icon_rolleyes:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/?cmd...459604&sspagename=STRK:MEWAX:IT#ht_567wt_1145

They top out,on average, at 48 hundred pounds.

Here's 3 hi-rez from under the hood.
As you can see, the Zeibart guy went crazy back in '75. Thankfully. I'm a believer, now.
BTW, I got my reservoirs confused.
W.S solvent reservoir 74-75 on left inner wheel well.
W.S. solvent reservoir 75-78 on right inner wheel well

I'll try and see if I can get any decent pics from under the dash this afternoon.
I have to go under there anyway to pull the P.B. booster.

 

[commando1]

Sonnavabeech it's tight under there...

 

[Polaraco]

OK! You got me fixed up. Sorta. Then I know I need to look on the right side where I thought it was via the wiring. That's what I thought those wires were for.

Headway
The turn signals are working now. There's a fault in the harness. I just have to find it.

 

[Polaraco]

Can anyone tell me what the fuse numbers are? I can't make heads nor tails of the fact wiring manual fuse numbers.

Perhaps a scan of the glove compartment manual would work best.

 

[commando1]

 

[Polaraco]

HORN! That's what I forgot.

My issue is the harness is for a tilt wheel and I am using a standard wheel from the 72. I might be able to put a 78 switch in the column though. Would fix a few gremlins. Otherwise, all systems are a go now. Except the horn

 

[Polaraco]

Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

Well here I was gaining on it, down to the radio and the horn. The rest is all figured out and connected.

Now something went wrong with the pooter harness and the ECU is not getting a ground. It was running until I started to tie up the harness. Re checked my work and found a couple of mistakes. Everything was fine until I wire tied up the EFI harness. Everything else works, it just doesn't run.

a 4 Barrel anjd standard ignition is looking pretty good about now. Got the carb already

 

[Polaraco]

I found it! I found the problem! NOW I can start wraping up the EFI harness.

What baffles me is, that ground was never hooked up to anything! It's run for 5 years like that.

Stan, the formal harness is a rat race as you already know, There's allot more wires in there that I never saw. I know it was greatly reduced in 79. The 79 and 80's were wired more like the72 was. Same functions, allot less wire. Copper must have been cheap that yuear. LOL

The Nightmare is tying 3 different harness's into the one to get everything to work like it should. Or should I say 4 harness's. I have my own in there for all the original mods I did. Not finished there yet. I have 3 unknowns yet and the rear blower. I'm going to try to use the rear heater switch for the rear window blower since it's a latching switch.

Maybe it's just paying more attention to the wiring. Some of those little gremlins will go away like the hard starting. Once i grounded that one wire, it started right up. In fact, I never heard it start that fast.

The only thing I can think of is the ECU was getting grounded by mistake and I disturbed it, or it was getting back fed somehow. Whatever. . . Glad I found it now and not at the side of the road.

 

[commando1]

It's a common misconception the 74's and up were an evolution of the previous C-bodies. Nothing could be further from the truth!
It's akin to mating an Oldsmobile to a Mercury. There's zero compatibility. The only thing that is interchangeable is the wing nut for the air filter housing.

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[Polaraco]

I never said that, but you are right. I chose the formal because I knew the bulk head connectors were gone and the wiring was better sized. Actually I could have made the 72 harness work. But the primary wiring is too light, and it had some gremlins in it. Plus I knew I could get the dash/heater to work.

I should have the dash assembled and most of the car together this weekend.

 

[Polaraco]

Well it doesn't look like it, but I'm gaining on it I started wrapping the under hood harness. The wiring is all done to the engine, I need to finish that up when I get the AC done.
Under the column, it looks cluttered but the harness is tied back temp. Ineed to rewrap that harness to include the extra computer wiring.

Tomorrow I'llput the fender well back in and finish up that area. I need to connect the heater hoses.

While doing all this, I discovered the pitman shaft seal on the steering box is shot. I have a rebuilt that's been sitting for several years. Ugh. That before paint I guess

 

[commando1]

I bet you wished you had removed the front seats by now.

 

[Polaraco]

I was exhausted so I didn't get out there until 3 today.
Right fender well is back in. Heater hoses are reconnected, rad is filled, cooling fans are working, changed the hood cable, wrapped more of the harness,got the AC compressor circuit figured out,

The connector for the horn relay is eluding me.

 

[Polaraco]

I need some help

Except for some connections I need to make, waiting for some fuse blocks, the electrics are done on the dash. Everything is working perfectly!.

The last thing left is to tie in the headlights, which are HID's and relayed. But I need to be creative for the high beams. I am rethinking the headlights to try to cut down on the wiring.

In the mean time, I am having an issue with the AC dampers. They don't work right. It's not the switch. I have plenty of vacuum. The doors are opening in the wrong sequence, An example is the defroster pot has vacuum on both sides, but the tube is not long enough to reach the next pot.

DOES ANYONE HAVE A COLOR CHART FOR THE VACUUM TUBING? This is not autotemp. It's manual. That't the onlt thing holding me up.

Meanwhile, this is where I am at.

 

[1978 NYB]

This is the only color vacuum diagram that I have for a 1978 NY'er. I have a black and white (lines marked by color designation) heater and A/C vacuum circuit diagram for a 1978 NY'er. I will get it to you today as soon as I figure out how to scan it and get it loaded on this site.

 

[commando1]

Best I could come up with. You'll have to break out the Crayolas...

 

[1978 NYB]

Here's the diagram from my 1978 Service Manual.

 

[1978 NYB]

Stan, are you pulling your image off a CD Service manual?