70bigblockdodge
Old Man with a Hat
My overhead is less.
The big bill means bigger GST, Ontario thanks you.
Not as bad as changing the starter on a 4.2 Trailblazer.
Looking at a Hellcat
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The big bill means bigger GST, Ontario thanks you.
70bigblockdodge
Old Man with a Hat
You know I'm just messing with you?
This still burns my ***. Equates in my mind yeah it's your truck and fuel and good safety record..... but we have a phone number and a connection to the loads so you get 1/3 of the billed rate, drivers wages, and no fuel surcharge= shop supplies. Glad my industry does not think this way You would think for the 100/hr your sucking off the top you could by some brake clean and WD-40 out of that. It is a mess across the mechanic industry that will come home to roost someday. The collision industry has seen some of this free estimate boom, boom, boom your car is totalled towed away to copart to be auctioned you got little to nothing. I'm glad I can do my own work and have a shop to do it in, even in real money I would have saved in the nieghborhood of $3000, happy new year to me, another 8 savings like that I will pay off Pa Dept of revenue.
Stan, keep in mind that's in Canadian dollars, so the total would be about $86.50 U.S.
300rag
It's Not Going to Shift Itself
Carmine
Old Man with a Hat
Is this a Canadian spelluing?
Fratzog
Old Man with a Hat
Trade school only provides English as a 2nd language training to their East Indian students.
72Fury
Senior Member
My overhead is less.
The big bill means bigger GST, Ontario thanks you.
Not as bad as changing the starter on a 4.2 Trailblazer.
Ford 5.4 spark plugs are the worst. 50/50 chance the plug will break in the head and require a special extraction tool to remove.
65sporty
Old Man with a Hat
Only the 03-07 3V, Ford got wise in 08 and changed the design of the plug. Look for the brown coil boots.
72Fury
Senior Member
Same problem on my 2008. Maybe later on though.
commando1
Old Man with a Hat
Sonnovabich. I just Googled it. No chit. There really is 16 plugs on Hemis.
So wth is so hard about changing plugs the the Jeep?
So wth is so hard about changing plugs the the Jeep?
Lol yes the modern hemis have 2 plugs per cylinder. The rear plugs are in a tight spot and usually are changed from underneath or by removing the wheel well liner. Half the time they are seized just as an added bonus.
Guys don't read things into my $4K "oil change", the Jeep was 11 years old and it was time for heavy duty TLC. I figured the hit would be around $5K but my problem was who could I trust to do an honest job. I called Graham and asked if he would baby sit my project. My instructions were simple, change all fluids, flush where applicable, all new filters and check from nose to tail for anything that doesn't look good and fix anything found. When the final bill was presented I was very pleased. Thank you again Graham.
As far as the individual charges, they work for me. I've run a bunch of businesses over the last 50 years and I'm very aware that good people are not cheap. For business to survive it must provide quality service with highly trained workers and it must turn a profit on every job. Yes even for the fuse, he had dig out the wiring charts to figure out which fuse, get a fuse and test after installation. I can easily see 1/2 an hour of shop time
Graham, my apologies, I didn't expect all the negative bs.
Stan, yes 16 plugs buried under a whole whack of things I wouldn't care to remove and yes the numbers are real and not out of line for a vehicle 11 years old. These new computerized toys are way, way beyond our C-bodies. There isn't any part of my Fury that I haven't taken apart, however, I don't wrench anything on the Jeep. It just isn't worth the aggravation to play with metric bolts and torx screws.
As far as the individual charges, they work for me. I've run a bunch of businesses over the last 50 years and I'm very aware that good people are not cheap. For business to survive it must provide quality service with highly trained workers and it must turn a profit on every job. Yes even for the fuse, he had dig out the wiring charts to figure out which fuse, get a fuse and test after installation. I can easily see 1/2 an hour of shop time
Graham, my apologies, I didn't expect all the negative bs.
Stan, yes 16 plugs buried under a whole whack of things I wouldn't care to remove and yes the numbers are real and not out of line for a vehicle 11 years old. These new computerized toys are way, way beyond our C-bodies. There isn't any part of my Fury that I haven't taken apart, however, I don't wrench anything on the Jeep. It just isn't worth the aggravation to play with metric bolts and torx screws.
commando1
Old Man with a Hat
And that's exactly the reason for my buying the heavy duty 10 year extended warranty. I STILL haven't personally popped the hood nor do I expect to ever do so.
I still have a problem with the bill.
I want to tear into every item line by line but galled me the most was the Major InjectOr Decarb.
That's an obscene price for squirting in a can of SeaFoam.
OK, I'll drop the subject because I know the overhead of running a new car store is obscene but..... I still aghast. Can anyone blame me? m
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Well Stan, that's 100% my typo! My bad, I never could spell worth a darn. Fortunately this deficiency has been hidden behind very good secretaries and now spell correct and Google spell checker. I must admit however, my iPhone spell correct and best guess word substitutions leave a lot to be desired!
As for the individual line items, that's just their flat rate book in action. I figure if the mechanic is good enough to do a good job and beat the book labor time, then the extra billing is a tip to honor the hard work he has done to learn his trade. If he doesn't meet the rate book, my bill is limited and he's likely to be facing a near future career change.
Ain't life grand!
Happy New Year to you and yours 
commando1
Old Man with a Hat
And to you guys, also!
I just wont be visiting any dealers with any out-of-warranty work, soon.
No problem Bill and I am not offended by any of the comments as I know the perception is that most work done at a Dealership level is designed to extract as much money from the customer as possible and to an extent that is a true statement. Dealerships have had a 100 years to perfect their game. It is no different then me walking into a Stereo shop and buying the latest tech. I am out of my area of expertise so I am forced to depend on the advice given to me by the “professional”. If I know/like/trust the guy I will be a regular customer and pay accordingly. Do I overpay? Maybe, am I satisfied? - usually. Stan has the right idea by buying protection for an investment that otherwise may be beyond his ability to repair
(sorry Stan for making that assumption just using you as an example) I certainly couldn’t do the work on a modern vehicle like I can on my 70 but that’s why I have tech’s I can trust and I pay accordingly. Piece of mind has a value to me and I am willing to pay for it. That said my daughter married a Chrysler Tech so I get the “family” discount
So true.
commando1
Old Man with a Hat
Car dealers and Teamsters... EVERYBODY hates them... 
Car dealers and Teamsters... EVERYBODY hates them...
Then I’m in good company here lol
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