Scenicruisin'..?

[amazinblue82]

Very little manufacturer vintage "art" advertising (pre 1970). Maybe I am looking in the wrong places. I'll keep looking around ..

A lot of Greyhound and Trailways obviously sprinkled through this thread -- promoting their brands/services of course, less so on who made their buses.

1958 Mack

1941 White

1948 IH

Circa 1940 - Unknown Manufacturer

1941 - IH

1965 GM "Fishbowl" Buses

 

[twostick]

Wilson's SGE has a single "Cummins 262" (whatever that is) .. didn't find any other details on it. Trailways ditched the RR diesels within the first few years of operation (the RR couldnt take the punishment) and went to DD 8V-71's.

A 262 is a 220 with a turbo. 743 cubic inch inline 6 diesel. Predecessor to the NTC 855 cubic inch engines.

Kevin

 

[amazinblue82]

A 262 is a 220 with a turbo. 743 cubic inch inline 6 diesel. Predecessor to the NTC 855 cubic inch engines.

Kevin

Thanks!

Good piece - reliable, durable, etc. ?

The Cummins 220 (N14, ISX, and 6BT have) hasn't come up in this thread before (that I recall) as a recommended re-power mill for a commercial bus.

 

[twostick]

Thanks!

Good piece - reliable, durable, etc. ?

The Cummins 220 (N14, ISX, and 6BT have) hasn't come up in this thread before (that I recall) as a recommended re-power mill for a commercial bus.

As reliable as anything was in the 50's but they were pretty much done for general use in the 60's after the 855 NTC engine came out.

Not something I'd consider for a repower.

Kevin

 

[commando1]

 

[amazinblue82]

AC-Transit's "Freeway Train" (the Super Golden Eagle from post #413) in 1966.

Source: AC-Transit's Facebook page

 

[amazinblue82]

Sante Fe Trailways (later Continental Trailways) "plywood bus" the Victory Liner. It was WWII and people were coming up with all kinds of ways to help the war effort.

Plus, it was "articulated" - in an odd way (look at the second photo -- what happens in left turns?). The mechanicals are unknown and all of them are gone.

Source: Take the plywood bus, help the boys overseas | Hemmings Daily

 

[amazinblue82]

Back to post #420. The 1946 Kaiser -- only one ever made. Sante Fe (Continental) Trailways used it for is San Francisco-LA route.

source: Kaiser’s articulated bus | Hemmings Daily

While many Kaiser aficionados know that Kaiser dabbled in jeeps during World War II, before making a splash in the automotive field, perhaps fewer know that Kaiser at one point attempted to produce articulated inter-city buses.

Built in 1946 at Kaiser’s Permanente Metals Corporation plant near Los Altos, California, the three-axle, 60-foot bus featured true monocoque construction and used a 275hp supercharged six-cylinder Cummins diesel engine under the floor of the front section.

The remainder of the under-floor space was used for the air-conditioning unit and for luggage storage, which helped lower the center of gravity – as did the use of aluminum for the lower portion of the body and magnesium for the upper portion.​

 

[300rag]

After seeing all these latest pictures, I wonder if you have given any thought to adding the "attendant" option to your build.

 

[commando1]

What da. . . . . ? ? ? ?

Where does the driver sit?

 

[amazinblue82]

After seeing all these latest pictures, I wonder if you have given any thought to adding the "attendant" option to your build.

Gotta take us back to post #154 -- somehow the photo links got broken. Here they are again,

Scenicruisers attract their own "attendants" -- hopefully even with a grizzled old-timer like me behind the wheel

 

[commando1]

Awe, how nice. Taking the bus to school on their first day of High School.

 

[amazinblue82]

What da. . . . . ? ? ? ?

Where does the driver sit?

Gotta be somewhere amidships (long axis of the the vehicle) in that circle I drew, hence the "panoramic" 7 windows around the cab ... or that thing is "self-driving"

 

[70bigblockdodge]

What da. . . . . ? ? ? ?

Where does the driver sit?

I think you move across the windshield as you turn. What sadist thought that up.

 

[amazinblue82]

Awe, how nice. Taking the bus to school on their first day of High School.

that's a hoot!

Ok ok -- I confess. here's my "roadie" crew waiting for the rest of my attendants to show up ..

 

[commando1]

Both theories would have him cut in half at the waist,
Something is not playing out correctly, here. . .

 

[amazinblue82]

I was gettin' pissed .... where is the darn driver!!

found a blog: BusTalk :: View topic - Santa Fe Trailway's Victory Liner

Driver is sitting on the "tractor" -- BUT where the passengers are. Excerpt from a post below.

I did find an old newspaper announcement of the start of service for the Victory bus. That does mention that the driver sits on the tractor portion, but is within the passenger compartment. One clue on the articulation that was mentioned was that a different 5th wheel design was engineered for this unit.​

Buncha other questions on the "Bus Forum" where those members we're trying to figure this thing out ... they didn't. not even how it mechanically handled normal road variation as one member's drawings show below.

 

[300rag]

The location of the mirrors should give an approximation of the driver's position.

 

[twostick]

I think the bus was engineered for the specific route it travelled. Same as Greyhound et al with their 4 spd transmissions. They didn't worry about backing up steep grades with no low reverse because the only place reverse was used was to back out of the loading ramp which was at worst level.

The route that bus ran on likely had no sudden elevation changes to deal with.

Kevin

 

[commando1]

He has to be sitting aft the mirrors.

Very weird indeed.