NOT seen this to my recollection. AND its in the neighborhood of my WNY operations ...and I could twist the Whisperer into a road trip from Michigan. thanks.
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NOT seen this to my recollection. AND its in the neighborhood of my WNY operations ...and I could twist the Whisperer into a road trip from Michigan. thanks.
The thing I remember most 'bout those old Detroit's waz that when you parked them you had to hang a big plastic tarp under 'um to catch the oil still oozin' out of 'um, lol BTW, Theirs ah Meat Haulin' outfit in San Antonio with an old Diamond parked it its own garage down there with ah 12V in it that the last time the company ran it, Louisiana State patrol blocked I-10 over near Slidell to get it stopped and the company had to ship truck and trailer back to S.A. By rail, lol. 'Nother one ah them stories very true and too hard to make up, Jer
azblackhemi
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Very true Jer. That's why we called them "Dripdroits"
largely disappointing experience so far
what I found out seller added to listing. 1949 model coach, not running, hasnt moved/run in 2 decades, no title --- just wants it gone.
Whisperer gave me a list of Brill-specific stuff. He's mostly not happy (no title thing really bugs him - all the time):
(a) it isnt running, but told me to re-power it (but NOT sure with what given clearances he recalls) unless i was building a "parade" coach that gas Hemi would bankrupt me otherwise,
(b) it has sat too long for his comfort - its gotta freely roll before transport,
(c) he would want it up in the air/on the road before he'd recommend it for me even if it was a "free - come pick in up" deal), and
(d) BUT anybody with a Brill in resto, and didnt care about transport, its probably a great coach for parts and they should snap it up. Expect mechanics to potentially be big $$$$ tho
(b) it has sat too long for his comfort - its gotta freely roll before transport,
(c) he would want it up in the air/on the road before he'd recommend it for me even if it was a "free - come pick in up" deal), and
(d) BUT anybody with a Brill in resto, and didnt care about transport, its probably a great coach for parts and they should snap it up. Expect mechanics to potentially be big $$$$ tho
Called seller back back three times with this advice/questions in hand. Radio silence in return through this very moment.
My "Spidey Sense" for unresponsive sellers (probably a nice person so NOT throwin' shade!!.. i am just talking about a BUSINESS deal) must be obeyed. Keep looking.
Thanks Chris for directing me to this Brill chief. I liked it.
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Thanks for the update, dodged a bullet on this one, hopefully the right one will appear soon.
polara71
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largely disappointing experience so far
what I found out seller added to listing. 1949 model coach, not running, hasnt moved/run in 2 decades, no title --- just wants it gone.
Whisperer gave me a list of Brill-specific stuff. He's mostly not happy (no title thing really bugs him - all the time):
(a) it isnt running, but told me to re-power it (but NOT sure with what given clearances he recalls) unless i was building a "parade" coach that gas Hemi would bankrupt me otherwise,
(b) it has sat too long for his comfort - its gotta freely roll before transport,
(c) he would want it up in the air/on the road before he'd recommend it for me even if it was a "free - come pick in up" deal), and
(d) BUT anybody with a Brill in resto, and didnt care about transport, its probably a great coach for parts and they should snap it up. Expect mechanics to potentially be big $$$$ tho
Called seller back back three times with this advice/questions in hand. Radio silence in return through this very moment.
My "Spidey Sense" for unresponsive sellers (probably a nice person so NOT throwin' shade!!.. i am just talking about a BUSINESS deal) must be obeyed. Keep looking. Thanks Chris for directing me to this Brill chief. I liked it.
BTW I had GREAT chat with owner of the Scenicruiser TwoStick pointed me to. We'll see.
I can't wait! The search has been fun, even from the sidelines but a lot of disappointment along the way.
I can't wait! The search has been fun, even from the sidelines but a lot of disappointment along the way.
thanks boss. I get giddy, than disappointed, than giddy again.
Still kinda fun in a "thank you sir may i have another" sorta way .. i guess just like the car hobby in that respect sometimes -- but you just cant park your mistakes in the backyard as easily with a bus
we'll see. thanks (you and others) for following/participating in the "thrill of the hunt".
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azblackhemi
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Here's one that doesn't need work. And the price reflects that. 1949 Flxible Bus
1949 Flxible Bus - $149000 (Corona Ca.) hide this posting
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1949 Flxible Clipper
VIN: 7LPN605
condition: excellent
cylinders: 8 cylinders
drive: rwd
fuel: gas
odometer: 26857
paint color: blue
size / dimensions: 33
title status: clean
transmission: automatic
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Way to much to list. Last restoration was started in 2004 and took three years at a cost of $300K. Everything you can see is new or rebuilt. The Bus is powered by a 502 RamJet crate motor and a Allison 1000 World transmission. Has power steering, air brakes, alcoa alloy wheels and Michlins all the way around. Great cooling system with oil cooler and five cooling fans. Just added a 48" flat screen, micro wave and dual backup camera. Bus was in the shop last winter for eight weeks and every little thing I could nitpick was addressed. Another $25K but well worth it. Part of the last work was upgraded brake cans and auto slack adjusters. Making the brakes modern and dependable. I don't have room here to list all the attributes of the bus but please see pictures and contact me for any questions. The only thing not currently working is the speedometer. Still looking for the problem with it. This is a one of a kind Hot Rod Bus and as you can see in the pictures has won many awards for class and condition. As I said it would take pages to list all the improvements in the Bus even if I could remember them all. Would not be afraid to drive it anywhere. Bid with confidence, I know you will enjoy it as much as I have.
1949 Flxible Bus - $149000 (Corona Ca.) hide this posting
image 16 of 18
© craigslist - Map data © OpenStreetMap
1168 Paseo Tasco Cir.
(google map)
1949 Flxible Clipper
VIN: 7LPN605
condition: excellent
cylinders: 8 cylinders
drive: rwd
fuel: gas
odometer: 26857
paint color: blue
size / dimensions: 33
title status: clean
transmission: automatic
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Way to much to list. Last restoration was started in 2004 and took three years at a cost of $300K. Everything you can see is new or rebuilt. The Bus is powered by a 502 RamJet crate motor and a Allison 1000 World transmission. Has power steering, air brakes, alcoa alloy wheels and Michlins all the way around. Great cooling system with oil cooler and five cooling fans. Just added a 48" flat screen, micro wave and dual backup camera. Bus was in the shop last winter for eight weeks and every little thing I could nitpick was addressed. Another $25K but well worth it. Part of the last work was upgraded brake cans and auto slack adjusters. Making the brakes modern and dependable. I don't have room here to list all the attributes of the bus but please see pictures and contact me for any questions. The only thing not currently working is the speedometer. Still looking for the problem with it. This is a one of a kind Hot Rod Bus and as you can see in the pictures has won many awards for class and condition. As I said it would take pages to list all the improvements in the Bus even if I could remember them all. Would not be afraid to drive it anywhere. Bid with confidence, I know you will enjoy it as much as I have.
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Gee, he's spent at least 325,000 to sell for 149,000.
Probably a good buy for someone compared to rebuilding it yourself.
Probably a good buy for someone compared to rebuilding it yourself.
Sorry about the disappointment(s)...largely disappointing experience so far
what I found out seller added to listing. 1949 model coach, not running, hasnt moved/run in 2 decades, no title --- just wants it gone.
Whisperer gave me a list of Brill-specific stuff. He's mostly not happy (no title thing really bugs him - all the time):
(a) it isnt running, but told me to re-power it (but NOT sure with what given clearances he recalls) unless i was building a "parade" coach that gas Hemi would bankrupt me otherwise,
(b) it has sat too long for his comfort - its gotta freely roll before transport,
(c) he would want it up in the air/on the road before he'd recommend it for me even if it was a "free - come pick in up" deal), and
(d) BUT anybody with a Brill in resto, and didnt care about transport, its probably a great coach for parts and they should snap it up. Expect mechanics to potentially be big $$$$ tho
Called seller back back three times with this advice/questions in hand. Radio silence in return through this very moment.
My "Spidey Sense" for unresponsive sellers (probably a nice person so NOT throwin' shade!!.. i am just talking about a BUSINESS deal) must be obeyed. Keep looking. Thanks Chris for directing me to this Brill chief. I liked it.
BTW I had GREAT chat with owner of the Scenicruiser TwoStick pointed me to. We'll see.
"(no title thing really bugs him - all the time)"- I completely agree... only a true dickhead sells a vehicle without a title, maybe I'll grant an exception for a parts car, but you'd better consume most of it, because even the scrap metal place gives crap about titles on cut up ones. If it's worth selling, get the title yourself, then sell... I usually flag them on CL.
"(a) it isnt running, but told me to re-power it (but NOT sure with what given clearances he recalls) unless i was building a "parade" coach that gas Hemi would bankrupt me otherwise,"- I love the idea of the Hall-Scott, but even maintenance parts are super hard to find... I've seen distributor caps offered for stupid money... used.
Look deeper into the Crown busses... they had some with a Cummins(?) "pancake" diesel... but I couldn't tell you more about any of that. To reconfigure the bus for a more conventional driveline would be a killer fabrication job and cost a fortune.
AND... a seller who is too wrapped up in other crap to sell, shouldn't be selling.
polara71
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That is sweet and probably well worth it ..
commando1
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Sounds about right. Just a bigger C-body.
Ray, even if you don't have the 149k now, think of the giant sucking sound your wallet is going to make every month doing a conversion. Monthly loan payments will be cheaper.
Chapter 2 starts today. I bought a Scenicruiser
It'll be a few months before I posted any more pics of the coach... that starts when it moves to my home base to get worked on. I will post pics of the whole thing .. probably will take 2-3 years before its done.
Well they are never "done" are they .. just ready for its screen debut.
Hope some of you all stick around and watch it play out. OR if you find good used parts (AC units, power & signal electrical stuff, sanitary system items, matched appliances) , for the RV conversion .. point them out to me. Got some nice Alcoas? keep me in mind.
Still gotta build my PD4501 on a budget -- the "Posse" is a demanding bunch
Thanks.
It'll be a few months before I posted any more pics of the coach... that starts when it moves to my home base to get worked on. I will post pics of the whole thing .. probably will take 2-3 years before its done.
Well they are never "done" are they .. just ready for its screen debut.
Hope some of you all stick around and watch it play out. OR if you find good used parts (AC units, power & signal electrical stuff, sanitary system items, matched appliances) , for the RV conversion .. point them out to me. Got some nice Alcoas? keep me in mind.
Still gotta build my PD4501 on a budget -- the "Posse" is a demanding bunch
Thanks.
polara71
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I love it .... Close to home and what you initially set out for... I applaud your effrts in sticking to your plan and desire . Most would have settled...
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Congratulations on the purchase, am looking forward to seeing the gradual transformation.
Does she need a more modern engine for better economy if that's possible for a bus?
Does she need a more modern engine for better economy if that's possible for a bus?
Yes ..she does. Early in this thread, i got lots of help on propulsion systems. My leaning is rebuild the 8-71 Detroit (the repowered mills all these coaches got refitted with in place of the two 4-71s they were born with).
There is a case for modern diesels -- but fuel economy for a design this old has inherent limits. I think my choice is 4-5 mpg (highway) with the oid iron to 8-ish (highway) with newer stuff .. in THIS coach.
It all leisure drving for me .. if I had to run a commercial business with this bus i'd go with modern propulsion fer sure.
Ripinator
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Chapter 2 starts today. I bought a Scenicruiser
It'll be a few months before I posted any more pics of the coach... that starts when it moves to my home base to get worked on. I will post pics of the whole thing .. probably will take 2-3 years before its done.
Well they are never "done" are they .. just ready for its screen debut.
Hope some of you all stick around and watch it play out. OR if you find good used parts (AC units, power & signal electrical stuff, sanitary system items, matched appliances) , for the RV conversion .. point them out to me. Got some nice Alcoas? keep me in mind.
Still gotta build my PD4501 on a budget -- the "Posse" is a demanding bunch
Thanks.
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I think this is terrific! Congratulations to you on finding and buying this PD-4501. It is definitely a dream that is coming true for you. It makes me remember the quote that: "Someday is NOW!" Way-ta-go!
Now tell us what the Bus Whisperer has to say about your acquisition. . .
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thx Rip. Whisperer is over the moon on this coach. I will summarize his initial thoughts here this wknd, stuff we are going to be looking out for before we start the build, etc.
I think I am going ALL Aluminum (like an "AirStream" trailer) on this one, with some accent colors here are there, Alcoas, silver roof, and I want to keep ALL the windows (Whisperer says not possible due to lavatory/shower/appliances .. middle two at least on one side have to go
)BTW, Love that quote boss. "Someday is NOW". means more and more as the "personal" odo continues to click.
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commando1
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The #1 reason why I don't have to explain my methods of madness anymore."Someday is NOW". means more and more as the "personal" odo continues to click.
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