polara71
Old Man with a Hat
Ayilar has a gift! He always gets the numbers and photos he asks for.
The Hurst Registry
- Thread starter Trace 300 Hurst
- Start date
Lycidias
Member
Nope. Seller replied to me @FB but there is no pic postet.
Lycidias
Member
I can't read in your listing if "CM23U0C228762" is listet. I think i see "CM23U0C22 *6* 762?!
Just to be sure...her it was for sale in Germany: Chrysler 300 Hurst - Burkhardt Motors
Just to be sure...her it was for sale in Germany: Chrysler 300 Hurst - Burkhardt Motors
Thank you for that information!
I just added your discovery of 228762 that was for sale in Germany and I'll post an updated Registry later today. It will include your Poland find from a month ago, 235899, which is still the "newest" car in the Registry.
I do not have a 226762, but I do have a 226726, which used to be my Hurst.
I just added your discovery of 228762 that was for sale in Germany and I'll post an updated Registry later today. It will include your Poland find from a month ago, 235899, which is still the "newest" car in the Registry.
I do not have a 226762, but I do have a 226726, which used to be my Hurst.
Some photos for records. They look to have been taken at different places/times. @polara71 will note the New Jersey plates in the first picture below, so perhaps he knows about CM23U0C228762 ?
We have two new additions to the Registry, thanks to the sharp eyes of @Lycidias. He tried to get the Door Sticker date for 235899 from the seller, but unfortunately they did not respond to his inquiry. It remains the "newest" Hurst in the Registry. Both of these new listings are in Europe, as is Lycidias.
Yellow highlight indicates changes from the prior posting on July 31, 2024.
Yellow highlight indicates changes from the prior posting on July 31, 2024.
@Trace 300 Hurst -- that's 60 cars in the registry as of now?
Lycidias
Member
I got an reply from the seller. He seems to be in Germany, but the car is in Poland and he can't get an picture. 
*may i Mixed sth up. Looking at to much cars at the same time.
*may i Mixed sth up. Looking at to much cars at the same time.
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We have 63 "J99XXX" cars to date. These are the cars I consider to be "true Hursts". This excludes the Prototype car and the Linda car, which are not J99 cars.
I have a list of about 275 Hurst VINs (a little over half the total production), but with no other data such as J numbers or door dates or options or anything else. It's just verified VINs submitted to a database years ago, and these submissions were randomly submitted by the owners. So it is not really "solid" data, but it's something. It starts at 178250 and ends at 241389.......with nothing but Hurst VINs in between. That also means that over 63,000 cars were produced during during this VIN listing!
What this list DOES show is "batches" of cars. For instance, there is a group of 14 VINs that are distinct from the VINs before and after it. I think we can assume it is a batch that was built and sent off to Hurst. [199983 199985 199986 199987 199992 199993 199996 199997 199999 200001 200003 200005 200006 200007] We have two of these in the Registry, and one them shows a door date of April. Okay....that's nice, but other batches were produced in April, so.....
Prior to this group there were about 3000 cars produced, and after this group about 3100 cars were produced. I have not analyzed the whole list for batches vs. possible dates because.....it's just number drudgery and the 275 cars are only 56 percent of the Hursts so significant data can be missing, and I can see gaps in the list. Without door dates it's just a number jumble. What we originally started trying to do with the Registry is to correlate VINs with J99 numbers and door dates to spot the cars that are outliers and jump around within the VIN sequence. Those are the cars that might have sat for around waiting for "Hurstization" or other production line inconsistencies that @69CoronetRT has taught us. But with only 63 cars yet, there's just not enough data to do that. We need another 400 cars with Fender Tag and Door Sticker info, so get busy, folks!
Interestingly, 235899 (provided to us by @Lycidias) is second-to-last on the 275 list. Only 241389 is newer and it stands there, all by itself, 5490 cars away from 235899. Also, it's the only 24XXX number on that list. Is the 275 list missing a WHOLE BATCH of the final Hursts? Will we ever unravel these mysteries?
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69CoronetRT
Senior Member
You’ve really brought this database and topic a long way. Good job and thanks.We have 63 "J99XXX" cars to date. These are the cars I consider to be "true Hursts". This excludes the Prototype car and the Linda car, which are not J99 cars.
I have a list of about 275 Hurst VINs (a little over half the total production), but with no other data such as J numbers or door dates or options or anything else. It's just verified VINs submitted to a database years ago, and these submissions were randomly submitted by the owners. So it is not really "solid" data, but it's something. It starts at 178250 and ends at 241389.......with nothing but Hurst VINs in between. That also means that over 63,000 cars were produced during during this VIN listing!
What this list DOES show is "batches" of cars. For instance, there is a group of 14 VINs that are distinct from the VINs before and after it. I think we can assume it is a batch that was built and sent off to Hurst. [199983 199985 199986 199987 199992 199993 199996 199997 199999 200001 200003 200005 200006 200007] We have two of these in the Registry, and one them shows a door date of April. Okay....that's nice, but other batches were produced in April, so.....
Prior to this group there were about 3000 cars produced, and after this group about 3100 cars were produced. I have not analyzed the whole list for batches vs. possible dates because.....it's just number drudgery and the 275 cars is only 56 percent of the Hursts so significant data can be missing, and I can see gaps in the list. Without door dates it's just a jumble. What we originally started trying to do with the Registry is to correlate VINs with J99 numbers and door dates to spot the cars that are outliers and jump around within the VIN sequence. Those are the cars that might have sat for around waiting for "Hurstization" or other production line inconsistencies that @69CoronetRT has taught us. But with only 63 cars yet, there's just not enough data to do that. We need another 400 cars with Fender Tag and Door Sticker info, so get busy, folks!
Interestingly, 235899 (provided to us by @Lycidias) is second-to-last on the 275 list. Only 241389 is newer it stands all by itself, 5490 cars away from 235899, and it's the only 24XXX number on that list. Is the 275 list missing a WHOLE BATCH of the final Hursts? Will we ever unravel these mysteries?
Once you organize the info, things do start to fall in place. Every piece of information, fender tag and door sticker helps.
Thanks, but I'm just the accountant. I can't find them all on my own!
And thanks back at ya for steering us on these "program cars" based on your experience with other A12 stuff.
This would be a lot easier if I was doing a Turbine Car registry. It would take five minutes and be forever complete.
Lycidias
Member
A Hurst in Finland for sale. No Tag.
And something that looks like a convertible Hurst. But blue (T code) engine? @ayilar mentioned it has no AC.
https://www.nettiauto.com/en/yritys/162155/11347081
https://www.nettiauto.com/en/yritys/162155/12736867
Maybe someone can tag finish members that find out more
And something that looks like a convertible Hurst. But blue (T code) engine? @ayilar mentioned it has no AC.
https://www.nettiauto.com/en/yritys/162155/11347081
https://www.nettiauto.com/en/yritys/162155/12736867
Maybe someone can tag finish members that find out more
@330dTA @Kaim @ImpJay -- any chance you might be able to help with the tags and/or other info on those two cars? The convertible looks like a regular 300, and has been available for sale since April 2022 or earlier. I don't think it is a real Hurst, unlike the coupe. This said, I am interested in the info -- see here for the dealer info:
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Coupe:
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330dTA
Senior Member
I’ll see what I can do. They both seem to be still there, up for graps. (I’m sure you are aware that 300 Hurst ’vert ”clone” has been discussed here many times before.)
Thank you. I have seen 'vert Hurst clones discussed, but this one specifically? You and I discussed it here, but I don't remember seeing the VIN or fender tag.
It is bizarre to me that someone will go to all that trouble to clone a 'vert into a Hurst, of which there are exactly ZERO J99 'verts produced. [The famous Linda car is a normal CM27/Q 300 'vert.] It seems like so much work to build such a car. And why. For that matter, where do the hood and decklids come from.....some other dead Hurst? Weird.
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Not sure if this one is known post says it's 8 hrs old.
Lycidias
Member
Well.from 2013. But maybe till today the only one that made it to New Zeeland: Long, wide and handsome Chrysler 300 Hurst - NZ Herald
Fascinating story! I'd love to have some Registry data and a little history about it. Maybe that information will float into this thread someday. One car at a time.....
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