1970 Monaco 37k mile orig. 440 -350hp highly optioned incl. Super Lite $10,500 near Phila, PA

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This is where i could not take it anymore. Anyone that compares a monaco to a 65 rivieras is on the WRONG site. I am a polara fusie guy and this was just too much for me. The long winded flipper verbage on the posts was too much too. I think alot of us on here are feeling the same way on this post and just were polite enough to not say anything. Any way to delete or lock this thread??
yeah, you've been real polite. Please. It's my experience that unless a post or poster breaks a rule, the post remains. Posters that make negative comments (who can't follow what we all learned in grade school- "if you've got nothing nice to say...") get their posts deleted. But hey, if the powers that be wish to delete the post for a car for sale that the majority feel is priced right, presented openly, and a neat ride, they certainly can. or maybe to satisfy you I should lower the price to a grand under your walkaway #? now there's an idea...maybe get a bidding thing going.
 
Seve, you never cease to amaze with your collection of C bodies!

I hear what 69vert500 is saying, but I don't see a problem with what 70monaco440 is doing. He has a car on the For Sale forum, he has posted tons of info and pics, it does not seem to be misrepresented, and he didn't join first touting his love for the car and Mopars. He came to sell, and he dropped the price twice! Yes, white is the biggest problem the car seems to have, and yes this thread is getting a bunch of activity, don't we want this one to be saved and find a permanent home? The price is right, just need the right owner.
thank you, lets find it a home b/f I do something real dumb like installing a spare 6-pak setup, headers, buckets, etc. Price reduced again, while the iron is hot, to $7,500.
 
If you don't have something nice to say the person you're talking to needs thick skin
I've always thought it best to be kind/civil than to require thick skin, but that's just me. BTW as a seasoned litigation atty my skin is like leather. oh shoot, now no one will come near the car!
 
I've always looked at it as if you can't handle criticism you shouldn't be on the Internet, or leave the house for that matter.
 
I am inbetween.

I agree that there is no need to offend someone.
So I try not to hurt feelings.

On a board like this the small active group of guys know each other a little bit better and it results in a more direct speech and honest opinion between eachother.

Carsten
 
Ultimately the market will set the price of this car. I like the way the seller has presented the car for sale with all the pics and videos. I also like the way this board is set up so you can discuss each car, both the good and bad. However its a fine line to cross and then it becomes negative and people stay away.

I hate when threads get locked or deleted. Everyone should be able to self moderate themselves. If they do go over the line a mod could just delete a reply or two. I think this is a good group and look forward to checking it out daily for cool c-bodies.

I like the car too, but to get the car where I would want it I think I'd have too much money in it. I don't mind the white at all. Not a big fan of the green interior though. It sure is optioned out nice though.

Dave
 
Ultimately the market will set the price of this car. I like the way the seller has presented the car for sale with all the pics and videos. I also like the way this board is set up so you can discuss each car, both the good and bad. However its a fine line to cross and then it becomes negative and people stay away.

I hate when threads get locked or deleted. Everyone should be able to self moderate themselves. If they do go over the line a mod could just delete a reply or two. I think this is a good group and look forward to checking it out daily for cool c-bodies.

I like the car too, but to get the car where I would want it I think I'd have too much money in it. I don't mind the white at all. Not a big fan of the green interior though. It sure is optioned out nice though.

Dave
well said, and that's what's happened here, the thread has gone negative- to the point where it's being suggested, without any basis, that there must be a hidden flaw with the car (!?) or that it's "a $3,500 car." The ironic result, alluded to already by another member, is that the car will likely not find a permanent home among those who in theory would appreciate it the most. I'm ok with that if you guys are, but it sure drives home the point that on some other auto-enthusiast sites, negative posts - especially speculative/unfounded ones- to sale threads aren't tolerated.
 
Ignore them, the price is right. More posts, more exposure, better chance for a sale. Enough info is there to cut through the BS and allow a potential buyer to make up their own mind. Only issue I see is the interior, and that's an easy fix.
 
Ignore them, the price is right. More posts, more exposure, better chance for a sale. Enough info is there to cut through the BS and allow a potential buyer to make up their own mind. Only issue I see is the interior, and that's an easy fix.

rock on!! and don't forget, labor on me if someone wants to get the carpet for it. and yes, I've done carpets. as to the minimal bubbles on the rockers, PO said they've never "moved" since he owned. Believe me I crawled all around the car looking for red flags, and at one point he was like, "look, I don't know what yur lookin for, but I don't buy junk!" And the rest of the iron in the garage was enough proof for me.

The one red flag I thought I found was red fluid dripping steadily off the pitman arm and elsewhere up front after the test drive, which I thought was trans fluid. He suspected it was pwr steering-related, and he was right, and the Lucas treatment and a replaced cracked hose has substantially minimized it.
 
just remember, most on this site think C bodies arent worth much. A bunch of cheap bastards they are

No, a lot of cars aren't worth much. My 67 Park Lane cost $900 in 2004 and today it is pretty much the same. Perfect interior, rides and drives beautifully and will be taking it on a 600 mile trip yet only about $1000 street price. Why, because no one wants them. Second, I am realistic about the car. You clearly are a big fan and a big fan of 71 Polaras. To say you are a little biased would be an understatement. That is fine but you can lose the overall perspective. Because it is old and because you love them does not make them worth a lot of money much as you would like. The market determines that and the market is a whole lot smaller for these cars and it is not expanding but contracting. The middle class market and the demographics that cares for these cars is shrinking. The cars have been flat in appreciation for years in grade 3 or less. These cars aren't like owning stock in Apple where one can expect the stock price to go up every year.

Look at it this way. Think of the ship I work on, the USS Hornet circa 1943, as a car. Most all docents and ship restoration volunteers are over 70 years old. They have either had a connection with the ship, or a sister ship, in one form or another. I am the exception, as a few others are in their 60's, but the real key is that there are no volunteers younger than 60 and nor docents under 60. Being retired in 1970 means no new connections were formed consequently no younger volunteers. I have talked to the head of volunteers about the problem which he knows is just around the corner with five docents leaving in the month because of age or illness. One day the ship will be hard pressed for any kind of qualified volunteer like many other WWII ship museums. No one alive will have any personal connection to them except a few Naval nuts like me. So to will our cars be in the same boat. It's inevitable.
 
We have quite a few new young members here that have interest in these cars, and if you were looking for decent to nice 69 - 71 Polaras and Monacos lately, you would find very few worth considering (or even any decent 69 - 71 300s either). And a lot of our cars are going overseas where the interest actually seems to be growing.

You can't compare our C bodies to an old ship with few mates that know how to work on them, as that is a stagnant situation, whereas this is still a pretty fluid one. Yes, fewer older people, but some new, young people too, and combined with fewer cars does not necessarily spell declining value. You seem to be one of the cheap guys to me, and you say it over and over how you won't pay for a desirable car and how you bought some very inexpensive 4 door models. Many of us much prefer the 2 door models, and they are not cheap if they are nice, at least they are not in the range you are buying. To me a car doesn't have to pencil out if I just plain like it a lot - I don't really care what it is worth if I like it. Nor do I mind working on a labor of love if I get no payback in terms of $$ for my time. Money, in and of itself, doesn't make most people happy. Enjoying my cars is much more satifying to me.
 
No, a lot of cars aren't worth much. My 67 Park Lane cost $900 in 2004 and today it is pretty much the same. Perfect interior, rides and drives beautifully and will be taking it on a 600 mile trip yet only about $1000 street price. Why, because no one wants them. Second, I am realistic about the car. You clearly are a big fan and a big fan of 71 Polaras. To say you are a little biased would be an understatement. That is fine but you can lose the overall perspective. Because it is old and because you love them does not make them worth a lot of money much as you would like. The market determines that and the market is a whole lot smaller for these cars and it is not expanding but contracting. The middle class market and the demographics that cares for these cars is shrinking. The cars have been flat in appreciation for years in grade 3 or less. These cars aren't like owning stock in Apple where one can expect the stock price to go up every year.

Look at it this way. Think of the ship I work on, the USS Hornet circa 1943, as a car. Most all docents and ship restoration volunteers are over 70 years old. They have either had a connection with the ship, or a sister ship, in one form or another. I am the exception, as a few others are in their 60's, but the real key is that there are no volunteers younger than 60 and nor docents under 60. Being retired in 1970 means no new connections were formed consequently no younger volunteers. I have talked to the head of volunteers about the problem which he knows is just around the corner with five docents leaving in the month because of age or illness. One day the ship will be hard pressed for any kind of qualified volunteer like many other WWII ship museums. No one alive will have any personal connection to them except a few Naval nuts like me. So to will our cars be in the same boat. It's inevitable.


No back at you.....of course I am biased however , this car is not a 3500 dollar car. This car should get close to asking price . I don't know where it is advertised but this isn't the place at this point. Be negative all you want... like Steve said at some point, it's leaving the country.
 
We have quite a few new young members here that have interest in these cars, and if you were looking for decent to nice 69 - 71 Polaras and Monacos lately, you would find very few worth considering (or even any decent 69 - 71 300s either). And a lot of our cars are going overseas where the interest actually seems to be growing.
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For some reason this thread reminds me more and more of this. 71 monaco survivor $10,500

Steve, I did sent you email today. Pepe
 
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