70Monaco440
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Hi Xavier, I got your message, and we will talk. Man it'd be cool if this car went to France!
1970 Monaco 37k mile orig. 440 -350hp highly optioned incl. Super Lite $10,500 near Phila, PA
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If it was 1983 it would be worth $ 350. That car is worth $3500.. Let those rich bored foreigners over pay for it.. !!! Cuz you're right they will..
CanCritter
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bounceing about huntin parts and seen this..thought ld throw it up for info and refrence...know polara has slight interest in these cars..looks to be not bad shape and buckets...383 car...thier askin 1400
DM23L1D126966
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tbm3fan
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Call it anything you want. I call it reality and it will hit you one day in your face as I see it every day happening to people when they least expect it. You're point of view is that it is worth any price almost. Ok, if you absolutely have to have it then I guess it is. Get emotional then and buy the car. What's stopping you?
I don't get emotional about cars although one person likes to call that cheap. I have never seen a car that I had to have pure and simple. I'm more practical about such things and if I like it maybe I'll get it. If I don't then que sera sera. One likes to call that cheap but that is his limited view. When it comes to my cars, once I own then, then there is no cutting corners when doing work on them. I install the best I can and if it isn't my strong point I take to someone who can and tell them to do it.
By the way if you are going to call someone a cheap bastard, seems like a standard rebuke for someone who doesn't agree with you on these things, at least you could be accurate.
Xavi3r
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bounceing about huntin parts and seen this..thought ld throw it up for info and refrence...know polara has slight interest in these cars..looks to be not bad shape and buckets...383 car...thier askin 1400
DM23L1D126966
please find me a 71 polara wagon !!!
Do you have more info about this one ?
Your reply is unclear about reality hitting one in the face someday? You mean that people that buy emotionally and pay too much in your view, are going to be sorry, and will end up in bankruptcy or something (hit them in the face)?. Assuming this is indeed a low mileage Monaco, there are many things you would not have to repair driveline/accessory wise that will save you money over buying a lower priced, higher mileage example. Also, if paying $7500 is going to put one at risk financially instead of $3500, one probably shouldn't even be looking at old cars to buy. You say you don't get emotional about cars, but you must have some emotion regarding these cars, otherwise you would be better served to buy a newer, more reliable, more economical to operate vehicle. And like it or not, this is a world economy now and the prices that people overseas are willing to pay for one of these vehicles factors into the value. I believe some astute buyer overseas will buy this car and it will be a reasonable price. By the way, this site is probably the most accurate for estimating values of cars from my past experience, and this Monaco at $7500 fits well within its estimates:
Collector Car Prices, Muscle Car Prices at Collector Car Market Review
When I use the word "cheap" in terms of one's buying characteristics, for me it means that the their estimated value of a model is well below what these estimates reflect as reality. But I do not use the word "bastard", but that is just common jargon these days and maybe a thick skin here would be worthwhile.
By the way, I agree with you that a world wide economic reckoning is indeed brewing, and it would be wise to keep that in mind when buying non essential items these days. Especially houses.............. And the wealth inequality present in the U.S. today is not sustainable and it is still growing.
CanCritter
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just name of wrecker...was one of the cars wreckers put off to the side because their to good to wreck hopefully...if you want phn number just shoot me a pm and will give you link to site ect ...as for 71 polara wagon will keep eye out but don't think ive ever seen one
You are quite the "ambassador".
I have sold a lot of cars overseas in recent years. The guys overseas are just as, if not more, knowledgeable about our C bodies than many folks here in the U.S. and are just as passionate. I don't think I have interacted with any of the buyers who I would describe as "bored" either. Many are hard working farmers that use the grueling cold and dark winter months to restore their vehicles. And unlike trying to sell a car in the U.S. lately, I have not had a single negative experience with any of the buyers overseas. They always do what they say and pay quickly and actually restore their cars nicely or at least make them nice daily drivers. And I don't consider them as "foreigners". Rather I consider them as friends, some of whom come to the U.S. to visit and I enjoy meeting with them a lot and visiting car shows. I also help them with parts and help answer questions as they go about restoring their cars. And I wouldn't describe any of them as rich, either, but rather as very hard working and smart and understand supply and demand rather well. They generally do not pay to have someone do much of the work for them, as they like to do most of it themselves. In general, they have integrity and don't speak condescendingly of that which they know nothing about.
Xavi3r
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There are some of my friend that are "rich" richer than me of course ( I earn 1500$ a month ) but the majority are normal people. We wait years to buy cars and yes, it is true, selling prices are higher here in France because these cars are rare and the first reason is selling a nice car at high price is the garantie than the new owner will keep and continue to restore it instead of pulling out the engine and trans to put it on a silly project that will be illegal anyway ( station wagon and hearses for exemple have all been destroyed for engines.. in the early 90's I knew 1 guy that destroyed 5 of them.. ) . But do not mistaken , you can't flip a car, like said, buyers are passionate they know what they do, selling at high price means a lot of money put in it to restore.
I can buy car because I sold other of my cars that is why and I am working for that. I have been scammed some times ( when I first bought a car it was for a 72 charger and i never get it ! ) but i am always back.
The prices are getting higher and higher ( see the chargers 68 it is insane !! ) but time passes ans the cars are becoming really rare.
We put so many money in the cars we buy and restore but we all work hard for it. The big diffrence too is that we have health insurance and school is free sometimes things like that so when a problem comes we do not need to sell everything we have to face it. we all admires US people for this capacity ( to start new life from scratch ) and it is true it scares us a little too.
You should know that we are very proud to buy your cars, by buy a piece of history , of america, where some of us will never come due to the funds for the trip. and owning a classic US car is very very cool here ( and the gasoline is 1.40$ ( and more ) per liter !! )
I can buy car because I sold other of my cars that is why and I am working for that. I have been scammed some times ( when I first bought a car it was for a 72 charger and i never get it ! ) but i am always back.
The prices are getting higher and higher ( see the chargers 68 it is insane !! ) but time passes ans the cars are becoming really rare.
We put so many money in the cars we buy and restore but we all work hard for it. The big diffrence too is that we have health insurance and school is free sometimes things like that so when a problem comes we do not need to sell everything we have to face it. we all admires US people for this capacity ( to start new life from scratch ) and it is true it scares us a little too.
You should know that we are very proud to buy your cars, by buy a piece of history , of america, where some of us will never come due to the funds for the trip. and owning a classic US car is very very cool here ( and the gasoline is 1.40$ ( and more ) per liter !! )
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A good friend of mine told me about "angry white men". Since his explanation I have noticed it several times. They always have to find someone guilty.
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polara71
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I have been looking for a 71 polara wagon for many many years. I've located a few and those were in real bad shape. I've had better success locating 70 wagons and in better condition.
commando1
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Every For Sale car is worth $0.00 (except to the seller) until it's sold.
A Fabrage Egg has zero monetary value sitting in a vault.
A Fabrage Egg has zero monetary value sitting in a vault.
polara71
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That's silly
70Monaco440
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sale pending.
Fratzog
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I thought everyone here had to present Joey with a COTS (certificate of thick skinedness) before being allowed to join FCBO! It goes without saying that we are all also cheap bastards to be in the hobby and driving our barges. No room for delicate sensibilities here LOL.
commando1
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polara71
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No....not all
commando1
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Gawd, at least a Certificate of Proficiency in Facetiousness should be shown before entering. 
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