73 Monaco wagon

[MonacoBlue]

Its hard to tell what is going on without actually being there in person. I guess you have to go over everything from the start til you find the problem. Sorry I couldn't be of more help.

Dave

I am thinking about putting in a one way 5/16" check valve in the fuel line just upstream of the fuel pump. I think the slow uphill issue is going to require more investigation. It has sat for several years so that hasn't helped. Thanks for the comment.

 

[MonacoBlue]

Transmission fluid was down a little so I topped it off and engagement problem is now solved. The acceleration hesitates when I press the pedal. This didn't happen before with the old carb and old original fuel pump. Since I changed both at the same time a week or two ago it complicates the problem analysis a bit. So now the other problem, which I am not sure if it's related to those or not....is fuel draining back from the carb after sitting overnight.

This is what I am thinking about adding - a one way check valve.
Aluminum One-Way Check Valve 8mm Barbed

 

[saforwardlook]

One thought is that the hesitation is symtomatic of the problem with warped air horns. I have had three of those carburetors rebuilt by Autoline, and one of them had an air horn that had not been flattened. I sent it back to them after talking on the phone with them, and they sent me one that they were sure that had the proper procedure applied to it. You might want to send Rock Auto a note and then they will put you in touch with Autoline. If you check out everything else and still have the problem, I would ask them to send another one. Maybe you got one that missed the fix like I did one time. They were easy to work with and assured me that the replacement I would get back would be right and it was.

 

[MonacoBlue]

Is there a way to tell by looking at it? What if you put duct seal or play doh around the ring base to get a better seal, as a test?

 

[saforwardlook]

Is there a way to tell by looking at it? What if you put duct seal or play doh around the ring base to get a better seal, as a test?

There is really no way of surely knowing whether it is warped unless you take the carburetor apart and try to make some measurements, but then you probably void the warranty. If your other checks don't reveal a problem, and since your previous carb did not hesitate, I would just assume you got a rebuilt one that one of their employees didn't really fix right according to their procedures. I am sure rebuilders fight this battle all the time. But I had the best luck with Autoline compared to all other rebuilders I have used.

 

[MonacoBlue]

Was thinking float level might be an issue. Not enough fuel in bowl when I press accelerator, starves engine? Is that a possibility? I can swap out old carb and see what that changes. What a pain.

 

[saforwardlook]

Was thinking float level might be an issue. Not enough fuel in bowl when I press accelerator, starves engine? Is that a possibility? I can swap out old carb and see what that changes. What a pain.

Just don't mess with the new one.
Pain is the joy of this hobby! You just have to get inured to it. A carb swap should only take no more than 10 minutes, and can usually be done in 5 minutes. You just need more practice!

 

[MonacoBlue]

Yeah I know. Just griping. I have to confess I really am curious to see how throttle response will be different when I put the old carb back on. I will say the idle speed is nice and slow now, like you would expect, with the new carb. But with the old carb (original) it seemed more quick/instantaneous. Now that I have a new fuel pump and filter on, maybe my old carb will run better? Makes me wish I would have changed the fuel filter and pump first, and not put on the Autoline carb yet. But sometimes time is so precious you just want to do the whole job at once. Except... when it doesn't give the results you'd hoped for, like this situation!

Another curious observation - one of the hoses from the carbon canister has no where to go with my "original" carburetor. There is no connection for it. At least with the Autoline Holley all the hoses have a 'home'. This makes me wonder if the carb that came with my car is truly original. It looked grungy enough, but that 'hose to nowhere' has me stumped.

 

[MonacoBlue]

And I won't do anything to the Autoline carb. Don't want to void the warranty.

 

[CanCritter]

just added a 2bbl autoline to mine..ran good outa the box...believe they test run the carbs on engines before they send them out....

 

[MonacoBlue]

Starting and running and DRIVING on the street. Gently. Short distances. The more I run it the better it runs. I think the PVC hose has a leak and will replace it. New tires need ordered. Probably going with Hankook Optimo white walls.

 

[MonacoBlue]

Found another build sheet. Under the back carpet. You know, where the rats peed.

Looked under front seats, no build sheet there either. The other build sheet I have that I found under the back cushion is for a different vehicle.

Wish I could at least read it, but looks like the type writing is faded forever. Anyone know any document preservation experts or NSA forensic data recovery specialists?

At least that nasty carpet is out of the car, forever. It's made the interior better already. Some slight surface rust of front floor pan, but nothing you wouldn't expect. Better than most, I would expect.

Thinking I might get a couple pieces of dynamat for the floorpan. We'll see. Need tires first. Looking for carpet, looks like Stock Interiors dot com has it. Any recommendations?

 

[MonacoBlue]

"Covers 55" - any clue how to interpret that to ID what kind of hub caps it might have had?

 

[MonacoBlue]

Side by side comparison. Incorrect B. Sheet on right.

What I can read -
Line 2 - ENG 63? Trim Code ?3
UDF COLOR H??

Line 3 - Steering column 5?
Steering wheel ??L5
Horn pad?5
RAD 57
Inlet Hose 5?
Alt 13

Line 4- vac fit 11
Engine ?53
Carb 31
Trans 54
Axle 187(?)
Road 64

Line 5- LT 579 RT 578
Labels VEH ?5, Tire ?3
Exhaust 848

Line 6 - time ?322
Carpet RR 46
Eng ft 61
Pulley 82
Drive Belt P/STS ?5

Line 7 - wagon dress up 2
Rear armrest 5?

Line 8 - Ft Heater 52
Glass ?1
Alter 3
Battery 3
Heavy duty fleet 9- 9(?)

Line 9 -
Cigar Lighter 5
Horns 1

Line 10 - Drip Trough 1
Sill 5
Wheel Lip 6
Tail Gate Sill Plate 4
Assist Handles 5
Door Lite 1
Ign SW time delay 5
Lock Lite 1
H/L On Signal 3?

Line 11 - Cooling less fan 51 or 91?
Cooling Recycling 6
Auto SP Ctl 8
Power Items Tail Gate 5
Deck Gate release (4)?

Line 12 - Radio 11
Rear Speaker 1
Front Shocks 1
Susp 3
Rear Shocks 1
5 - 1
Power Steering 7
Strg wheel 7
Covers or delete 13
Road wheels 95

Remarks 1903 17?9 1326

 

[MonacoBlue]

Strange the little things that keep you motivated. Plenty of things on the car could stand to be fixed/upgraded/replaced, but the relative "ok-ness" of the rear door interior panel caught my eye tonight and gave me a little inspiration. "Keep going".

 

[MonacoBlue]

Nasty carpet gone. Some purist probably horrified somewhere that it will no longer be original, but I am a happier owner.

 

[MonacoBlue]

Repainted metal trim strips.They were brown from surface rust previously. I put rust remover on them, cleaned them, primered and then re-painted Dupli-Color Ford(horror!) Wimbledon White. Not quite as 'off white' as I would have liked when I first painted them, but once they were installed they looked ok.

 

[MonacoBlue]

"Before"

 

[cantflip]

Nasty carpet gone. Some purist probably horrified somewhere that it will no longer be original, but I am a happier owner.

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As easy as it is to replace carpet... I know, not always easy... but to get rid of so much rodent droppings and urine, nothing else makes sense to me.

 

[MonacoBlue]

Changed the transmission fluid and filter tonight. Auto Zone had a clearance sale on the made in Taiwan filter, $6.21. ATF+4 fluid two for $10. I got 6 quarts, just because. Nice to be able to use my torque wrench on the pan cover bolts. Did a cross-cross tightening pattern, 150 in-lb.

Gonna order carpet and tires. "Ivy Gold" from Stock Interiors. I want to enjoy this car before the warm weather season ends.
Maybe I can find some giant vintage one piece clear plastic floor mats, with the lovely fluer-de-lis motif. And a Kleenex box holder for the transmission hump. And a pine tree air freshener for the rear view.

I still can't bring myself to clean out the cigarette butts in the back seat ash tray. Vintage. Mint.

I did see some farmer had some old Firestone P235 75R15's for sale down in South Carolina, on Ford truck wheels with Ford dog dish hub caps. They had an aggressive truck tread... if I wanted to be a yay-hoo and drive around on one of our rare snow days in January. Hmm...donuts in the Walmart parking lot in a C-body wagon during a blizzard. Visualize whirled peas, with that green carpet. Nahhhhh....
Perish the thought.

Power steering fluid leaking. It does work, but what a mess. I am out of my league dealing with that. Maybe I can trace the source of the leak, if it's a hose that'd be an easy fix. One. Thing. At. A. Time.