I kain't stand using any kind of a fone to surf the internet! My shop laptop is ancient using Windoze 7 and it works fine even with all the ads! Got off the dang phone!!!!!
Ads are effectively irritating
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3C's & a D?
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I'll assume you meant " Get off the dang phone!!!!!" You cranky bro? Most "phones" have been computers for well over a decade now. This comes with pros and cons, mostly cons.
3175375
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I use my phone for almost everything. I do have a laptop but use it a lot less.
Progressive lenses help a lot.
It takes a lot of money and time to make a website work. We're getting a free way to communicate with our Mopar brothers and sisters! The easiest way to pay for a website is to let advertisers place ads. Yes, popup ads are annoying, but they pay for the website. Becoming a good member here for a measley $40 a year is worth not seeing the excessive popup ads! Joey and Mike are doing us a great service letting us communicate with each other that wasn't even possible 25 years ago!! And with the increase in inflation the last four years, everything is more expensive including car parts and running a website!!
3C's & a D?
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My old laptop has been collecting dust for ages now. I'm already paying a phone bill, no point paying for a separate internet line/modem for my amount of use.
3175375
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You missed my point.
Something changed recently for the worse. No communication from the management that maintenance costs have risen and to keep the site free, the ad content is going to increase, or you must pay for access with reduced or zero ads’
That’s the point.
Jakter
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The point is you're a guest here for free and nobody owes you an explanation.
Act like an adult.
I pay the $40 here and use ad blockers for everything else. I really got a laugh out of seeing a advertisement in a YouTube video for an ad blocker that works with YouTube along with a message about how ad blockers violate YouTube's user agreement.
I do see both sides of the argument, but we're closer to the movie "Idiocracy" becoming a documentary.
I do see both sides of the argument, but we're closer to the movie "Idiocracy" becoming a documentary.
Jakter
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69CoronetRT
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Where in your user agreement does this say any of this is a requirement?
Any owner of any website is free to make any changes to THEIR free use site as they see fit whenever they want.
The user's choice is to visit, or not, the site with or without a fitness of use agreement.
The owner of the local bar is under no obligation to ask me if they should change the color of the bathrooms or what color they should be or notify me how that affects the price of a beer.
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3175375
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It’s not a requirement. I was under the impression (incorrectly so) that this site was a place of attraction, not promotion, for people to contribute, learn, enjoy and share their collective experiences regarding the C body Mopar s. I was mistaken for believing that the people who own this site were interested in keeping their users informed of the environment. That’s on me.
From how I see it, not communicating with the users (gold or not) what is going on with the sites operation is not being attractive.
Apple has operated this way since its inception and I continue to be unenamored with this approach.
You are right. It’s the owners site and he can run it however he damn well cares to.
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Jakter
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Not cranky at all lol. Pretty much need a somewhat of a cool head to be a moderator.....I'm not one here though. Problem with using a phone here or on any site is that the screen is way too little for me. I've done some moderating like when at a doctor's office and sitting in the waiting room and it's a rpita!
Read above lol
Everything I do on my laptop is soooo much easier and like the much bigger screen plus I post ads on FBBO at times and even that is much easier.
What HASN'T gone up in price!!!!? Everything went through the roof since the scamdemic....
Have you ever looked at how many sites that Joey owns??? He would be on 24/7 answering everyone's questions!!! Yeah, he made a simple reply that didn't tell you anything but gee.....
And along those lines, There is only so much room on a cell phone screen so many pieces of the website puzzle are not included. A small ad on a phone could take up half a screen where on a laptop or PC may only be a square in the corner.
Nothing has changed. I haven't changed the ad content.
No, no communication. I don't come crying to members everytime my costs go up, which they do routinely. Just to give you an idea, the last time I bought servers I paid over $20k for them. The next time I buy servers they will likely cost upwards of $30k (if not more with tariffs).
In fact, over the 20 years I have run FABO and FBBO, I have increased the cost of a gold membership twice, in 20 years. I don't believe I have ever raised the price of gold membership here.
3175375
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Why did it change within the last few weeks?
3175375
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I’m not crying. Just irritated.
Thanks for responding with content!
This is a fact. Ads have crept into covering half or more of the viewable content of the available area. It’s not consistent. This behavior has changed to be more intrusive in the last several weeks, maybe since New Years?
I didn’t intend to start a $hit show, but was just reporting an irritating result of my ability to participate in this forum.
No agenda, no crying, no whining. Just reporting a problem in my eyes.
I understand that the ownership has expenditures and this forum isn’t a hobby, charity or necessity. The costs for the hardware, software, electricity, operators salaries and other hard expenditures aren’t handled by the forum fairies.
Everyone has a choice to spend their way out of ads. I had a gold membership and for me, the expense outweighed the benefit.
The reason that I brought this post up in the first place was that I thought that the organization that runs this forum would like to know that something changed.
I view this thread as a ‘problem report’ area for the owners of the forum to receive issues that the user community (gold members and not) can provide input for issues, ask questions, share their experiences and ask questions about/with this forum.
To me, I don’t understand why there’s such defending and resistance to my initial issue. Something changed for not the better.
If I was running this railroad, I would welcome such input and gladly respond with an explanation. I am not running it, saw an issue that negatively affected my ability to effectively contribute to the forum and reported it here. Nothing else.
Feedback is a gift, whether it’s congratulatory, critical or constructive or destructive. What I do with it is what matters.
It’s clear that the organization operating the forum does not want to investigate or improve the problem that I reported.
In the Navy, when a problem occurs and hardware is sent to the I level shop for troubleshooting and the problem can’t be confirmed or reproduced, the hardware was sent back with an action code of ‘A799’. Can not verify/no issues experienced.
I guess this issue that I reported gets an A799.
QED
Visiting **** sites will usually clog your phone full of bs or worse yet, a virus.
Being irritated and bitching then? Maybe you should have worded your question differently.....Sounds to me like it's something that's different with your phone. Did it get updated recently? That can sometimes change things for the worse.
3175375
Senior Member
Apple is always updating their iOS.
I would be the first to admit that I can do a lot better.
Whatever the reason, why shun dealing with the issue and/or acknowledging that it’s a problem?
Read my comments above about feedback….
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