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Fuselage Fury HP engines
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70bigblockdodge
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So it all comes down to a part# that you cannot reference, a stamp that I could add to the pad myself and .025" of cam lift. Things like taller pistons, intake and exhaust manifolds, carburetor calibrations, distributor curve, are all just unimportant parts, gotta have that stamp and .025" cam lift.
You guys sure can split hairs, more power to you, carry on. Thanks
You guys sure can split hairs, more power to you, carry on. Thanks
polara71
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Kenworth or Peterbuilt, what's the difference?
Barracuda or Cuda
Coronet or Super Bee
Satellite or Road Runner
What's the difference?
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I still don’t know what SMH stands for.
For what it's worth, I was only asking as I was curious as to how odd a 383-4 PH23 would be...
A friend found one and has passed the owners info along to me. I may pursue it.
A friend found one and has passed the owners info along to me. I may pursue it.
70_NPORT
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Go for it. I would fuselage coup cars are seemingly mighty rare outside car shows unfortunately.
twostick
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If I may add my barely informed opinion to the mix...
I think it's pretty obvious that you can have a "high performance" 383 rated at 330 hp without the HP stamp on the block because the HP stamp has squat to do with what the marketing department might be advertising as "High Performance " for a particular car model. Everybody seems to be hung up on that HP stamp dictating the performance level.
The engine application or horsepower rating or both could trigger the HP stamp because of the required combo of internal components to meet the engineering spec for horsepower or durability or both.
I've seen HP stamped 440 blocks that came out of platforms that would never be considered high performance, in Roadrunner terms at least.
The one that comes to mind is a 440 out of my buddy's parents 69 T&C wagon. It was an HP block and had a windage tray and 6pak style rods in it but it was a 350 horse with the Holley carb.
Any manual trans equipped big blocks in trucks or cars from the cast crank era will be HP blocks because they all have steel cranks in them.
Kevin
I think it's pretty obvious that you can have a "high performance" 383 rated at 330 hp without the HP stamp on the block because the HP stamp has squat to do with what the marketing department might be advertising as "High Performance " for a particular car model. Everybody seems to be hung up on that HP stamp dictating the performance level.
The engine application or horsepower rating or both could trigger the HP stamp because of the required combo of internal components to meet the engineering spec for horsepower or durability or both.
I've seen HP stamped 440 blocks that came out of platforms that would never be considered high performance, in Roadrunner terms at least.
The one that comes to mind is a 440 out of my buddy's parents 69 T&C wagon. It was an HP block and had a windage tray and 6pak style rods in it but it was a 350 horse with the Holley carb.
Any manual trans equipped big blocks in trucks or cars from the cast crank era will be HP blocks because they all have steel cranks in them.
Kevin
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polara71
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All 383 - 4s are uncommon in Cs . This particular Fury Nick looks likje it was a gorgeous well optioned car. That car needs you, please save it.
70bigblockdodge
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Not much, same parent company. The fleet versions if the nameplate is blocked off you have no idea.
They are the same body shells per line so really no difference other than the sales broucher. Sure you can argue that they are different models, but they are the same.
69CoronetRT
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If all 68-70 383-4 are HP then asking how many 383-4 HPs were built is redundant. Why would you need to include the HP designation unless you need to distinguish an HP assembly from a standard performance assembly?
If Mopar considered all 68-70 383-4 to be HP then the question should be why they even bothered to stamp some blocks HP but not all.
If all 68-70 383-4 were HP, then the question should be why does there seem to be a higher percentage of these assemblies stamped with HP in B and E bodies and not C bodies?
If Mopar considered all 68-70 383-4 to be HP then the question should be why they even bothered to stamp some blocks HP but not all.
If all 68-70 383-4 were HP, then the question should be why does there seem to be a higher percentage of these assemblies stamped with HP in B and E bodies and not C bodies?
twostick
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Did the 335 horse Roadrunner engine get a windage tray vs no tray in a 330? That's all it would take for one block to get stamped and the other not. No 335 horse C-body would equal no HP blocks.
Kevin
polara71
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Stop it.! If you are going to carry the torch then this stuff matters. If you're gonna not care then you wouldn't have asked the question.
twostick
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That's the crux of it right there.
Where would the HP be stamped on a 383? Pan rail?
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The machined pad next to the distributor.
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