new law for only 2 cars per driveway in minneapolis

70bigblockdodge said:
Sure they will, they will buy them a car also.
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I worked with a guy, his brother didn't work, had 7! kids, had a 2 year old Toyota SUV, got $1400/month for housing, food stamps which he sold for cash, sold weed and shoes that fell off the back of the truck. I worked 36-38 hours a week and that able bodied fellow, got more for housing than I took home each month! I learned how badly our system here in MN is that day. I'm in favor of a 6 month maximum for welfare if you are single and no kids. Single mom's a year. Someone on welfare shouldn't have a pocket full of cash while I struggled to make ends meet. I bought and sold car parts for extra cash to make things work back then. I did have fun watching my co-worker hussle his brother for a pair of shoes, he worked him on the deal.

Minnesota loves to pay out, and keep paying, that's why we get do many folks for Chicago when they get cut off there. Illinois don't f around!
 
LocuMob said:
I worked with a guy, his brother didn't work, had 7! kids, had a 2 year old Toyota SUV, got $1400/month for housing, food stamps which he sold for cash, sold weed and shoes that fell off the back of the truck. I worked 36-38 hours a week and that able bodied fellow, got more for housing than I took home each month! I learned how badly our system here in MN is that day. I'm in favor of a 6 month maximum for welfare if you are single and no kids. Single mom's a year. Someone on welfare shouldn't have a pocket full of cash while I struggled to make ends meet. I bought and sold car parts for extra cash to make things work back then. I did have fun watching my co-worker hussle his brother for a pair of shoes, he worked him on the deal.

Minnesota loves to pay out, and keep paying, that's why we get do many folks for Chicago when they get cut off there. Illinois don't f around!
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They should have to perform community service also. Get off their a****s.
 
This bylaw is a prime example of why you need to pay attention to what is happening at city hall. This bylaw was not written up on a napkin and copied into the bylaw book by a secretary, it was initiated during a public council meeting, and likely was in discussions for weeks if not months. If it was passed on the very day it was first brought up without any time allocated for input from the public then it is time to vote those people out of office. Chances are what happened was they were trying to fix an existing issue of people parking their vehicles on their yard, and slowly dismantling them. This will actually drop land values for the neighbourhood. Once they presented a ban on that someone stood up and said "they will just part that car out in the driveway now", so they said ok, let's say the vehicle must have a licence plate. Someone else chimes in that they will just put a plate on it. This will go on and on simply because no matter how you try to stop something, there will always be the "what if" argument. Think about it, every ime someone suggests something, somebody will come up with an example of the exception. Town council in this case likely just decided that setting a flat limit that satisfies the majority of people is good enough.
Of all the replies in this thread, how many are actually living there? Where I live we have some rather draconian laws regarding parking. Stuff like all vehicles must be currently licenced(which also means insured), be drivable, and no house trailers. We have a 3 hour limit on street parking, with a complete ban on street parking from 3am to 6am during official winter season.
Citizens of Minneapolis simply need to gather people from all districts(or whatever they call the areas representatives cover) to approach their local candidates prior to elections and make them state their views on that bylaw. Find the ones that will vote to redefine that bylaw so it will better satisfy the needs of the public.
 
I lived in Minneapolis for 26 years...I'm closeby in a suburb that has same type of interest in controlling what you do on your property. I am very good at finding loopholes in many of their ordinances.
 
DocMcNeedy said:
I lived in Minneapolis for 26 years...I'm closeby in a suburb that has same type of interest in controlling what you do on your property. I am very good at finding loopholes in many of their ordinances.
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The trick is to prevent the need of having to find loopholes in the first place. Anytime you belong to a localized special interest group, one of the official positions of that club should be someone to keep up to date on local legal issues that will impact your club. A localized club can have as much impact as the NRA has on federal issues.
I also wonder how many of the post authors pay attention to their own local government. Being outraged at some far away location having these types of bylaws should ignite their participation in their local governments activities. Local government is not some autonomous machine, its just a bunch of people who are trying to look out for the majority of people. Pretty much everyone is able to run for office in local government.
Getting back to local bylaws where I live, the township has bylaws covering how far back from the street centreline new houses are to be built. They also have laws concerning number of types of houses can be in a new subdivision. The builder of the subdivision is responsible for sidewalks, which have their physical placement in regards to the side of the road(not centerline like houses are). My house is on the south side of the street, and all houses are 2 story. Every house on my side of the road have single car garage and driveways. The other side of the street all have car and a half garage(what they humoursly refer to as double car) and a driveway that is a full width double car width. We get winter here, and, from November through March the sun never manages to hit any closer to the house than about about 2 feet from the curb. Front of house is about 20 to 25 feet from road. We are responsible for keeping sidewalk clear if it runs across your frontage. Given all that, would you place that 3 foot wide sidewalk on the side of the street with double car driveways and full exposure to the sun 12 months of the year, or on the other side with no sun during freezing snowy weather and short single car driveway? Idiots put the sidewalk on my side of the street, making it impossible to park a long box crew cab half ton personal plated pickup truck without getting a ticket for overhanging the sidewalk. Township says to use the garage, the 10x20 garage they approved when development permits were submitted. If I park in the garage I will have to sleep in the truck, not enough room to exit the truck. In my case it didn't impact me, my truck is only an extended cab with 6.5ft box. It does however sit with the back of the truck about 6 inches from garage door, and front bumper is right at the sidewalk. All of this was decided years before I purchased. The township wanted $100 to change the official drawings if I wanted to widen the driveway and would have to pay to have curbs cut. They didn't even have curbs in to cut yet. I noticed that when they laid out the stakes for curb locations that they were marking the openings with bright orange paint. Off I went to home depot and grabbed a can of fluorescent orange paint, rubbed their mark out in the dirt and sprayed a new mark on 10 feet to the west. Been near 20 years, they never noticed that only one house has a double car driveway on my side of the street.
 
Here's an example of a loophole...my collector plates come with restrictions...basically I can drive the car to shows, be in parades, go to mechanic, parts store, etc...not to work or just cruisin' which I do the most, etc...Well, with a C-Body I am always aware of my surroundings(fuel stops and parts stores) and know I need gas almost daily with my big barges.:rofl:So, when I get pulled over I am just going to or leaving a fuel stop...and always have broken parts on my front seat.:lol:
 
And the three Dogs are needed to sniff out the right spare parts at Pep Boy's because of lack of experienced employees.
 
DocMcNeedy said:
Here's an example of a loophole...my collector plates come with restrictions...basically I can drive the car to shows, be in parades, go to mechanic, parts store, etc...not to work or just cruisin' which I do the most, etc...Well, with a C-Body I am always aware of my surroundings(fuel stops and parts stores) and know I need gas almost daily with my big barges.:rofl:So, when I get pulled over I am just going to or leaving a fuel stop...and always have broken parts on my front seat.:lol:
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It took me about 4 times calling the state, in St. Paul, at the capital, so I know I was talking to someone who knew, when a non grumpy, non near retirement age male answered, and helped me define that statute better. As long as it's related to a car club, or a club function, you technically aren't breaking the law. I reread the statute yesterday, and it include the limited use, but simply state not for general transportation. That to me means a cruise isn't out of the question. I haven't had any problems with the car, even in the metro area.
 
PS...I always have a published list of car shows for the season on front seat. My Line chaser (MSRA) has every weekend in MN and even Wisconsin booked with car shows...so Officer guess where I'm headed?
Scott my DMV clerk told me I can't even drive to get a cone at a Dairy Queen with my plates...I'm not kidding you...that was last year when I applied for Big Red plates.
 
DocMcNeedy said:
PS...I always have a published list of car shows for the season on front seat. My Line chaser (MSRA) has every weekend in MN and even Wisconsin booked with car shows...so Officer guess where I'm headed?
Scott my DMV clerk told me I can't even drive to get a cone at a Dairy Queen with my plates...I'm not kidding you...that was last year when I applied for Big Red plates.
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They've been taught to kill all spirit of anyone applying for a collector plate. Any time they give me their schpeel, I just start laughing and answer "Yeah." I give them a reason to complain. Now Laura's old coworker is down at the DMV, so she will help me out, and the other gals there are on the level, so I don't worry.
 
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Dogs, lying sneaky city inspectors and neighbours all stink. When i bought and brought my 66 Fury wagon home on a trailer, my neighbours came out to join me and my kids, whom where in discussion on how to unload it, to inform us that 'They' did not want THiS here ! So i pointed to the beautifulfunctional fence between our properties and told them that that is where their dream ends and mine begins and that 'they' and the city couldn't do anything about it. It must have stressed them out alot cuz he is dead now and she is in a seniors residence , apparently he threw her down the basement stairs and she killed him. The city officials wrote me a one thousand dollar infraction ticket based on a 3 non-affiliated bylaws hand delivered by the court bailiff that never made it past the prosecutor. Now everything is beautiful and quiet except for my other neighbour's little rat dog thats louder than she is! I am going to ask her to trim back the roots and branches of her trees overhanging on my property, I miss her husband who told me years ago when i moved in that he believed a man's home is his castle and that he is free to do whatever he wants. Rest in peace Claude .....
 
r/t said:
Dogs, lying sneaky city inspectors and neighbours all stink. When i bought and brought my 66 Fury wagon home on a trailer, my neighbours came out to join me and my kids, whom where in discussion on how to unload it, to inform us that 'They' did not want THiS here ! So i pointed to the beautifulfunctional fence between our properties and told them that that is where their dream ends and mine begins and that 'they' and the city couldn't do anything about it. It must have stressed them out alot cuz he is dead now and she is in a seniors residence , apparently he threw her down the basement stairs and she killed him. The city officials wrote me a one thousand dollar infraction ticket based on a 3 non-affiliated bylaws hand delivered by the court bailiff that never made it past the prosecutor. Now everything is beautiful and quiet except for my other neighbour's little rat dog thats louder than she is! I am going to ask her to trim back the roots and branches of her trees overhanging on my property, I miss her husband who told me years ago when i moved in that he believed a man's home is his castle and that he is free to do whatever he wants. Rest in peace Claude .....
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You should give the pup a bacon bit and snuggle him...dogs are a gift from God.:rofl::poke:
 
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