The sub frame project has begun..

[66SportFury]

Wow, nice job! It's looking great. Should be close to firing it up. Is that power steering return hose far enough away from the pulley?

 

[Zymurgy]

You are leaving me in your dust nice productive day.

 

[mr. fix it]

Wow, nice job! It's looking great. Should be close to firing it up. Is that power steering return hose far enough away from the pulley?

It's actually about 2 1/2" away from the pulley. .

It must be an optic contusion

 

[66SportFury]

it's actually about 2 1/2" away from the pulley. .

It must be an optic contusion :d

lmao..!!

 

[tallhair]

Nice work. What color/brand of paint are you using for the suspension components?

 

[mr. fix it]

Nice work. What color/brand of paint are you using for the suspension components?

It is "Rust Bullet"

It's a glossy black which is not correct for the purist resto.

It is great for this type of application as you can apply it to any metal and reseal the can.
Then open the same can months down the road.

POR15 is a use it all n get ready for the left overs to harden while in the can as well after being exposed to the air..


The silver for the firewall is also Rust Bullet..

 

[greasemonkeyman]

Looking good,but there's just one tiny thing that seems to be out of place......do you plan on painting or powdercoating that alternator pulley to match your other pulleys? Just a thought?

 

[mr. fix it]

Looking good,but there's just one tiny thing that seems to be out of place......do you plan on painting or powdercoating that alternator pulley to match your other pulleys? Just a thought?

I had a feeling that someone would ask.

I plan to leave it zinc coated for now. .

 

[kmccabe56]

I had a feeling that someone would ask.

I plan to leave it zinc coated for now. .

I don't get on here often, so I've just read the entire thread through from start to finish. (A) Excellent work. (B) Realized you've got a Windsor built car, I'll look up some production numbers. Right now I'm guessing 400-500 tops. (C) If you're going for the full "stock" look, all of the pulleys will be black, as will the alternator mounting bracket. (D) Glad to see you didn't paint the hose connection portions of the thermostat housing and water pump. Paint there just about guarantees a leak. (E) The 318-2V was the stock engine for the Canadian Polara 880s. I don't have installation rates for optional engines, but my educated guess is that 90+% of cars like yours had a 318.

 

[mr. fix it]

Nice work. What color/brand of paint are you using for the suspension components?

Sorry, I think I misunderstood the question when I read it from my smart phone??

Anyways the major components are the Rust bullet black and silver.

The cast gray colured paint is marketed as "Cast Blast"
I bought it online from Dell City . net.

A number of restore guys like myself have used with good success.

Gives the steering linkages a nice clean cast look which offsets the parts from being all black.

here is a link to Walmart as well.

I know I didn't pay this much for it though.
http://www.walmart.com/ip/Seymour-Cast-Blast-Iron/19249805

 

[mr. fix it]

I don't get on here often, so I've just read the entire thread through from start to finish. (A) Excellent work. (B) Realized you've got a Windsor built car, I'll look up some production numbers. Right now I'm guessing 400-500 tops. (C) If you're going for the full "stock" look, all of the pulleys will be black, as will the alternator mounting bracket. (D) Glad to see you didn't paint the hose connection portions of the thermostat housing and water pump. Paint there just about guarantees a leak. (E) The 318-2V was the stock engine for the Canadian Polara 880s. I don't have installation rates for optional engines, but my educated guess is that 90+% of cars like yours had a 318.

Thanks for the information!

I'm going for a close to stock look but offsetting with a few different highlights like the cast painted pulleys.

I had read that there is less than 30 Windsor built 880's left on the road.

I had the feeling that the 318 is the minority for the Windsor built cars as well.

The 383 is definitely the most popular that I have seen on the road..

Whatever data you can come with would be appreciated..

 

[mr. fix it]

I managed to scrape this off of another Mopar site debating verts in my era..

It get's a bit foggy on production # of the Monaco & Polara as well as the US bound & the Cdn bound markets.

Let me know if you can add any more data on this.

"Monaco convertibles were built, and sold, only in Canada. The Canadian Dodge used Plymouth interiors and was priced to compete against the Plymouth Fury, Chevrolet, Pontiac, Ford and Meteor. The Canadian Monaco, then, was actually in the same price range as the Ameican Polara (non-318 model).

Production of Polara convertibles (which, except for 1970 were not sold in Canada) :
1965 Polara - 2,670
(Polara 500 was a option package on the Polara in 1965 and 1966)
An additonal 1,472 convertibles were built in the Custom 880 series.
Total 1965 : 4,142

1966 Polara - 2,472

The big Dodge was restyled for 1967, but sales slumped :
1967 Polara - 1,162
1967 Polara 500 - 838
Total - 2,000

1968 Polara - 1,205
1968 Polara 500 - 792
Total - 1,997

A totally new body for 1969, and sales went downhill :
1969 Polara - 922
1969 Polara 500 - 573
Total - 1,495

1970 Polara - 842
Of the 842, 698 were built for sale in the U.S. and 146 for Canada. 1970 was the first year since 1962 that Chrysler Canada did not build convertibles.

Bill
Vancouver, BC"

 

[polara71]

Kevin may have some different numbers. It was very interesting watching Those two spar ten years ago about numbers and different Chrysler reports....comparing option reports, production reports , sales reports. I never knew. I have a tremendous respect for Kevin and Bill, they know their stuff

 

[mr. fix it]

Kevin may have some different numbers. It was very interesting watching Those two spar ten years ago about numbers and different Chrysler reports....comparing option reports, production reports , sales reports. I never knew. I have a tremendous respect for Kevin and Bill, they know their stuff

No disrespect intended at all here.

I'm looking forward to seeing more data on the production of this car.

 

[polara71]

No disrespect intended at all here.

I'm looking forward to seeing more data on the production of this car.

I wasn't implying it .......... TWO VERY knowledgeable guys

 

[mr. fix it]

I wasn't implying it .......... TWO VERY knowledgeable guys

Oh.......
I'm not so knowledgeable at times. . ;)

But who's the other knowledgeable guy???
LOL

 

[kmccabe56]

I'll stick my responses throughout this post.


I managed to scrape this off of another Mopar site debating verts in my era..

It get's a bit foggy on production # of the Monaco & Polara as well as the US bound & the Cdn bound markets.

Let me know if you can add any more data on this.

"Monaco convertibles were built, and sold, only in Canada.
Agree.

The Canadian Dodge used Plymouth interiors and was priced to compete against the Plymouth Fury, Chevrolet, Pontiac, Ford and Meteor. The Canadian Monaco, then, was actually in the same price range as the Ameican Polara (non-318 model).
Partially agree with this. In 1966 in Canada, Polara came in three series. Base Polara 330, Polara 440 and Mr. Fixit's Polara 880. The highline car was Monaco.

Production of Polara convertibles (which, except for 1970 were not sold in Canada) :
1965 Polara - 2,670
(Polara 500 was a option package on the Polara in 1965 and 1966)
An additonal 1,472 convertibles were built in the Custom 880 series.
Total 1965 : 4,142
Didn't look up 1965 information since you're working on a '66.

1966 Polara - 2,472
This represents the number of cars built in the U.S. with 2464 for the U.S. 1546 were built at Jefferson. 926 were built at Belvidere. Of the 1546 built at Jefferson 8 were built for export.
Windsor built 348 Polara 880 convertibles and 1 was exported. It may even have been RHD(!) Windsor also built 552 Monaco convertibles (what the Americans would have called a Monaco 500)

I also stand corrected on the engine. ANY '66 Dodge sold in Canada was available with ANY engine from /6 to 440. The /6 and the 318 were built next door to Windsor Assembly in the Windsor Engine Plant. The 383-4V and 440-4V were the only optional V8s. Given that this was pre-Autopact days and the 383 and 440 engines would have had to be imported the price premium for them would have been significant, which is why I still suspect that the vast majority of the 880s would have gotten a 318. I did get a chance to drive a /6 car when they were new and they were no threat to a loaded transit bus off the line.

Did not check any of the rest of Bill's numbers since that's getting off topic.


Bill
Vancouver, BC"

Kevin

 

[mr. fix it]

Kevin

I love the quote

"they were no threat to a loaded transit bus off the line"

:icon_lol::icon_lol::icon_lol:

I have nothing to add for now.

Will post if I come across more data.

 

[kmccabe56]

I love the quote

"they were no threat to a loaded transit bus off the line"

:icon_lol::icon_lol::icon_lol:

I have nothing to add for now.

Will post if I come across more data.

To get installation rates of options based on sales, you'll need to find somebody with the SG30 report for 1966 for Canada. The U.S. report exists but I've never seen the Canadian ones. It appears that when the Autopact came into effect, the guys who prepared these reports cleaned house and tossed them all.

Does the VIN for your car begin DH27G69?

 

[mr. fix it]

To get installation rates of options based on sales, you'll need to find somebody with the SG30 report for 1966 for Canada. The U.S. report exists but I've never seen the Canadian ones. It appears that when the Autopact came into effect, the guys who prepared these reports cleaned house and tossed them all.

Does the VIN for your car begin DH27G69?

Mine is DH27E69xxxxxxxxx