1972 Fury III 360 101498 miles

[ImpJay]

On Thursday, I drove my 1972 Fury to work, 68 miles round-trip. The car ran great and drove great once it was started. The car is just a joy to drive!

The temperature was about 25°F when I first walked out to start it. The car took a long time to start, lots of turns of the starter. Battery is not weak. Starter turned at same rate the whole time. @barnfind recommended a mini starter from the Magnum engine.

Are all the Magnum starters the same from 1993 to 2003?

If not, which year is the best to buy or pull from a junkyard?

I researched some other threads, and people were concerned with the sound of the Chrysler gear reduction starter, versus the later high torque mini starter. I don’t care about that. I just want the car to start quickly in cold weather. Before I go adjusting the electric choke, which I don’t want to do because everything works fine once it started, I’d like to try a Magnum mini starter. Thanks for your advice as always. Ben

Old Faithful, Slow & Heavy, has been off the car a couple times for clean up, including terminals
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I searched from here and there without finding that the starters would be different. The second question is for wiser members.

 

[68PK21 440.6bbl]

The car took a long time to start, lots of turns of the starter.

How many times did you pump the gas pedal before cranking? I remember during very cold weather that two or three to the floor mashes of the gas pedal would do the trick.

 

[1970FuryConv]

How many times did you pump the gas pedal before cranking? I remember during very cold weather that two or three to the floor mashes of the gas pedal would do the trick.

Don't think I went all the way to the floor. Repeated: 2 pedal pumps, light pedal pressure, try to start. Maybe I'll try flooring it 3 times when it gets cold again.

 

[65sporty]

Gotta set that choke and give it some fuel, my last carbed daily, my 78 Jeep J-10 took a couple pumps and the colder it got the more it took. When it was single digits outside it could take at least 6 pumps.

 

[1970FuryConv]

I guess it's a question of richening the fuel mixture with pedal pumps or creating additional vacuum by spinning the engine faster. Or both.

 

[ImpJay]

I guess it's a question of richening the fuel mixture with pedal pumps or creating additional vacuum by spinning the engine faster. Or both.

The first pump activates the automatic choke and all the rest help engine to get more fuel.

 

[1970FuryConv]

Sounds like I need to try more pumps

 

[1970FuryConv]

ebay order
1994 5.9L Magnum Starter, New, $81.16
New Starter DODGE RAM PICKUPS 5.9L V8 1994 1995 94 95 | eBay

Also ordered this adapter, $10. Mounting position shown doesn't have the terminal block, but if it doesn't work, I can throw it on a parts shelf for future use. Thanks for the advice & Happy New Year!
Mopar mini starter conversion terminals | eBay

 

[LocuMob]

ebay order
1994 5.9L Magnum Starter, New, $81.16
New Starter DODGE RAM PICKUPS 5.9L V8 1994 1995 94 95 | eBay
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Also ordered this adapter, $10. Mounting position shown doesn't have the terminal block, but if it doesn't work, I can throw it on a parts shelf for future use. Thanks for the advice & Happy New Year!
Mopar mini starter conversion terminals | eBay
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For my big blocks, I take off the black plastic terminal and I'm good to go. That adapter might put it out a bit and give a cleaner angle to get at the bolts. Now I'm curious to see how it works.

 

[ImpJay]

Sounds like I need to try more pumps

That´s recommended.

 

[1970FuryConv]

Starter 410-52033 powerpartspros1 ebay, 1994-95 360 Denso-type new mini-starter
Adapter, badvert65 ebay
Old & new (as shipped), wire terminals on opposite sides

Popped off black plastic cover and removed adapter block installed on new starter, 2 nuts
New adapter on right

New adapter mounted

Black stud cover still fits over 2 studs

Although wires mount on opposite sides, about same length from bell housing

New starter, easy to mount, unlike old starter, able to get torque wrench on both bolts

Wires mounted

Wire routing

From below

Result: Fury 360 Edelbrock 1406 starts instantly. Extremely impressed. Starts like a fuel injected car.
Shout out and thanks to @barnfind for modern starter idea and pointing me to the adapter along with @Dan Scully and @saforwardlook.

 

[barnfind]

 

[LocuMob]

badvert65

He's a member on one of the F_BO sites, name is familiar. I might have to try that the next time around, makes sense with the different location of the terminals and gets then away from the exhaust. Thanks for sharing that little bit.

 

[1970FuryConv]

He's a member on one of the F_BO sites, name is familiar. I might have to try that the next time around, makes sense with the different location of the terminals and gets then away from the exhaust. Thanks for sharing that little bit.

Hi Scott. You're welcome. Some more great news. I went out this morning after the car sat overnight in subfreezing temps. It was 28°F and the car started on the 1st turn of the key! That has never happened to me on a cold start. And it started in about 2 seconds. Amazing!

The bummer is that my heater blower motor cut off on the way to work so it was one cold trip. Oh well. Another thing to fix. Ben

 

[ImpJay]

I yesterday saw member @Badvert65 on this forum.

 

[Badvert65]

I yesterday saw member @Badvert65 on this forum.

Yes, one and the same. Been a Mopar guy since time began. I wanted a set of the terminals, but with the minimum buy and shipping, they were sorta pricey for one set. So I bought extras and I am selling them for cost (expensive to ship for its size). Just trying to help out my fellow Mopar guys.

 

[1970FuryConv]

Yes, one and the same. Been a Mopar guy since time began. I wanted a set of the terminals, but with the minimum buy and shipping, they were sorta pricey for one set. So I bought extras and I am selling them for cost (expensive to ship for its size). Just trying to help out my fellow Mopar guys.

Thanks @Badvert65. Your generosity helped resolve another problem in my quest to take my 1972 Fury from a car that sat on the sidelines to a real reliable driver. Most appreciated! If you're ever in Richmond VA area, I'd be glad to meet up. I'm an Absolut vodka man, but whatever you're drinking, I'll buy the first round.

BTW, I bought a 2nd terminal adapter from you today, so that I can convert my 1970 Fury convertible. What c-body cars do you have? Any 72-73 c-parts cars in your area? Fuselage c-parts cars? Thanks again and TGIF! Ben

A fast-starting great-driving Happy Fury, Belvidere IL factory made in USA

Wife's Dodge Nitro in background. Made in Toledo Ohio. Mopar all the way!

 

[1970FuryConv]

Current Battery Tray. Big rust hole at rear corner, radiator side.
1965-73 Mopar C Body Chrysler Dodge Plymouth Battery Tray New Yorker Fury 300 | eBay
SHOCKER! Somebody actually makes a c-body part. Dimensions 13x7.5 inches (vendor provided). Dimensions same as mine. Bolt holes in exact same places as my battery tray. $24.97 plus ship. Bought one today. Awesome!

 

[1970FuryConv]

72 Fury Battery Tray. Mario @MBar has a 72 Fury with AC. He sent some pics, which prove that the AC battery tray is same as non-AC even though his car has 26" radiator yoke support, while mine has 22" radiator yoke support. Important if I unbolt my current bent radiator support and bolt on a 26" 1972/1973 radiator yoke support. Gary @Wollfen says that 69-71 radiator yoke supports are not compatible because they are taller than 72-73. 72-73 has a rubber isolator below to make up the difference in height. Mario's Pics provided for reference. Thanks Mario! Looks like you did great job on front of your engine.

He says his support strut is MIA if anybody's got one.

 

[Wollfen]

I forgot about checking my panel, I will get onto that today guys.