I would order the Craftsman torque wrench online. Good tool and a great warranty.
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I would order the Craftsman torque wrench online. Good tool and a great warranty.
monaco75
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Will do Mr C. Deff make sure to be nice and easy with it. The cam comes with some assembly lube, and I also have a spare bottle from a while back when I got all the stuff for the small block. Should have plenty to spare.
Oh yea, I've been real intimate with the manuals lately. I've got an original FSM, as well as a haynes manual. The cam will have instructions as well. Just wanted to ask before hand if there was anything to look out for.
I did break down and order it. According to ups it should be here thursday. I went around to a few other places locally looking for one, but they were all alot more then I was looking to spend.
Thanks guys
monaco75
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Cam and lifter kit showed up, as well as the torque wrench. One thing I'm liking about this engine build is all the new tools I'm acquiring!:wtg:
Talked a bit ago about staying with the thermoquad, which I would like to keep. Although the one I currently have needs a rebuild.. Was wondering, has anyone used/had any experience with the summit reman thermoquads?
http://www.summitracing.com/parts/sum-210236
Its cheaper then buying a reman one locally at one of the parts stores. However it states that it is a square bore carb? I thought all thermoquads were spread bore? Were there any differences in the years? Or is this a summit thing?
Another thing I have been thinking over is the exhaust. Seems like I have 2 options... (well 3 really, but would rather go with one of the last 2)
Keep the existing stock manifolds
HP manifolds
Or Hooker headers (these are the only headers that fit a big block formal that I know of)
http://www.summitracing.com/parts/hok-5113hkr/overview/year/1975/make/dodge/model/monaco
I would really like to get away from the stock manifolds to free up a little power. I like the idea of HP manifolds.. But you all know how expensive, and hard to find they are. I've also heard they are pretty prone to cracks. With the headers they are obviously more expensive. Also I don't like trying to keep them from leaking. I have a hard enough time trying to keep the ones on my newport leak free. This being an everyday driver, dont want to deal with it. But... I do like the idea of the extra power from them, and if I could get them to act like a factory manifold, and not leak would probably be pretty happy with em. Idk.... What do you guys think?
Talked a bit ago about staying with the thermoquad, which I would like to keep. Although the one I currently have needs a rebuild.. Was wondering, has anyone used/had any experience with the summit reman thermoquads?
http://www.summitracing.com/parts/sum-210236
Its cheaper then buying a reman one locally at one of the parts stores. However it states that it is a square bore carb? I thought all thermoquads were spread bore? Were there any differences in the years? Or is this a summit thing?
Another thing I have been thinking over is the exhaust. Seems like I have 2 options... (well 3 really, but would rather go with one of the last 2)
Keep the existing stock manifolds
HP manifolds
Or Hooker headers (these are the only headers that fit a big block formal that I know of)
http://www.summitracing.com/parts/hok-5113hkr/overview/year/1975/make/dodge/model/monaco
I would really like to get away from the stock manifolds to free up a little power. I like the idea of HP manifolds.. But you all know how expensive, and hard to find they are. I've also heard they are pretty prone to cracks. With the headers they are obviously more expensive. Also I don't like trying to keep them from leaking. I have a hard enough time trying to keep the ones on my newport leak free. This being an everyday driver, dont want to deal with it. But... I do like the idea of the extra power from them, and if I could get them to act like a factory manifold, and not leak would probably be pretty happy with em. Idk.... What do you guys think?
I need to go back a few pages & get up to speed on your progress. Awesome! I hope you're having a blast.
monaco75
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Thanks Ross!
Not much progress yet.. Just sitting on the engine stand, getting stripped here and there. Also trying to gather parts. I'm hoping to bail the tranny out of the shop towards the end of next week. Havn't heard anything on it, however I'm not bugging him either. Hoping that I get the back burner "friendly" price lol
I haven't had much luck with Thermoquads. Even on my new 1973 Ralleye Challenger. I had warranty replacements and ended up going with an aftermarket Holley. As far as your engine....I would put an Eddie 1411 carb on it. 750 cfm and comes with an electric choke. You can still use the stock manifold. Mine is 1406 carb which is 600 cfm.
monaco75
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Thanks for the input Bob! I know a lot of guys over on the drydock swear by the eddie carbs.. I'll have to look into them. I do want to keep the thermoquad... but am open to others. I have a local mopar buddy who is supposedly a great thermoquad tuner/rebuilder, so was planning on letting him tune it once installed, but still dont know yet.
Where did you run the switch for the electric choke if you dont mind me asking?
monaco75
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Only $900+ computer to use..... ****! You got any job openings Ross?? haha
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The only thing wrong with the early Thermoquads is a persons lack of knowledge to tune them correctly. The only people that will tell you they are '' Junk'' are the people without that knowledge.
The electric choke comes mounted on the right side of the carb. Only thing you have to do is hook the ground and power wire to something that has power when the key is on. Simple hookup.
commando1
Old Man with a Hat
2 cents here.
Past: Eddies. Then Holleys. Never happy with them.
This time around I had my TQ restored by someone who specializes in TQ restoration. Restored, not rebuilt.
Wasn't happy with it. Read everything I could about TQ's. And then read some more and asked a ton of questions. Over the next 6 months I had that TQ off and on half a dz. times tweaking, drilling, modifying, etc. till it was perfect.
Idles and accelerates like a FI Lexus now.
Your satisfaction with whatever route you go to will vary.
I have come out of all of this with one thing and it's my personal feeling only but Eddies work 80% properly out of the box and no amount of fiddling gets them better than that. Holleys work 80% out of the box and can be infinitely fiddled with to your satisfaction.
TQ's work 80% out of the box and Voodoo and swearing makes them work to your satisfaction.
I really have no faith in carbs people say are Plug n Play.
I just totally muddied up the waters for you, didn't I. Put on an Eddie. LOL.
Past: Eddies. Then Holleys. Never happy with them.
This time around I had my TQ restored by someone who specializes in TQ restoration. Restored, not rebuilt.
Wasn't happy with it. Read everything I could about TQ's. And then read some more and asked a ton of questions. Over the next 6 months I had that TQ off and on half a dz. times tweaking, drilling, modifying, etc. till it was perfect.
Idles and accelerates like a FI Lexus now.
Your satisfaction with whatever route you go to will vary.
I have come out of all of this with one thing and it's my personal feeling only but Eddies work 80% properly out of the box and no amount of fiddling gets them better than that. Holleys work 80% out of the box and can be infinitely fiddled with to your satisfaction.
TQ's work 80% out of the box and Voodoo and swearing makes them work to your satisfaction.
I really have no faith in carbs people say are Plug n Play.
I just totally muddied up the waters for you, didn't I. Put on an Eddie. LOL.
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monaco75
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Gee... Thanks stan... Haha jk
That seems to be the general concensus. I don't trust carbs that claim to be plug and play either.
Honeslty though, I don't think I will go the eddie route at the moment. Like every carb people either love em or hate em, and I have heard a little more hate towards the eddie. I'll stick to eddie for intakes, but not sure on other parts.
I have a holley 750DP on my newport. It works great, and very responsive. However I've heard a lot of people say not to go with them if your concerned about gas mileage. I really cant judge it from the newport as it is not built for any kind of mileage- I.E. 4.10 gears and other go fast goodies. It does not do to bad though.. Seems to get around 15/16 mpg if I keep my foot out of it. I didn't tune it though, bought it the way it is, and never wanted to mess with it since it runs good.
The thermoquad, from what I've read is great for both performance, and mileage.. Just a royal PITA to get it there! Not sure if I would have the patience for it though..
Bob, do you know what kind of MPGs you get with your eddie?
Mr C
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Agree totally. I have an Edelbrock 1406 on the 360 in the D100 and I had to fiddle with it and I was disappointed with how little the carb responds to tweaking. I have TQs on my C's and I'm far more content with where they are at.
commando1
Old Man with a Hat
Helpful hint #410: Disassemble the TQ on a huge baking pan on your work bench. Very helpful catching the 100 teeny tiny little metal thingies that fall out...
monaco75
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Stan, you said you were drilling the thermoquad??
monaco75
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My big meat claws would probably never be able to get the teeny tiny pieces back in!
I have taken a few trips around the Chesapeake Bay (330 miles total) and I averaged 15.5 mpg. My usual driving habits around town brings in 12.5 to 13.5 mpg.
commando1
Old Man with a Hat
Yes.
Rejetting it.
Rather than buy each size set of jets ($$$$$), I bought a set of the leanest jets (smallest orifice) and kept drilling up one step at a time till It was properly jetted. I have a complete set of LETTER drill bits and use a pin vise.
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I guess I've been lucky with the 1406. It was down to 9 degrees once this winter and my NYB is parked outdoors (no garage). It started right up, even the choke worked properly. I have no complaints.
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